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[-] Clent@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Actions have consequences.

Those who were taken along for the ride and actively voted against these are a small minority. I can see some benefit of helping them but would need to see what percentage of them actually need it.

The rest of them fucked around and need to find out or we're just going to keep doing this shit generation after generation. Those on the lower end of the socioeconomic scale have happily voted for regressive policies. Fuck'em.

They already fucked our planet, I owe them nothing. We owe them nothing. They owe us.

Let them eat cat food.

[-] bhmnscmm@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

It's not a small minority. Look at the results of every presidential election since the 1980s, they're not representative of an overwhelming majority of the population. Nor are the republican/democratic splits in Congress.

But that's all besides the point. These generational lines are all arbitrary anyways. We agree there are problems with the status quo--do you think the fixes just shouldn't apply to anyone over 55? Would you be okay with that logic being applied to yourself in 30+ years?

[-] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

those

them

them

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For as long as you continue to think the problem is age and not class (which you are a fool to think that every boomer is upper class or vice-versa), you will contribute nothing to real change. You're playing directly into petty division politics like a good little prolie.

[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

Boomers are the ones voting against working class. Take a look at the 2020 DNC primaries. They elected Joe fucking Biden.

[-] Clent@lemmy.world -5 points 9 months ago

Nope. The problem is not class. They could have implemented a better world and choose not to.

They choose to support policies that did this to them. Fuck them and fuck you for falling for it.

They've had decades to tax the billionaires into millionaires but they chose not to and they continue to choose not.

[-] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 months ago

So you’re saying you supported everything trump did while President? I mean… you were of voting age while he was elected right? So clearly you agree with everything done? And you agree with everything currently being done?

[-] Clent@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Funny. My understanding of political history isn't limited to the past 10 years. The people hitting retirement age today overwhelming supported Reagan in the 1980's. They've had decades to correct their mistake, they've had decades to prepare for a proper retirement in the world they created. They have chosen poorly.

Ant and the Grasshopper. They chose to be the grasshopper and dancing away decades of their lives. Now a significant percentage of them approach retirement with zero savings. Fucking zero! Their inability to prepare for the inevitable is not my problem.

The message from the boomers has always been that we cannot afford it. Now that it's them in need, cost is no issue.

I am more than happy to help the generations younger than myself shore up retirement.'They were born into the shit and most of will never have a chance to save anything significant.

Everyone older than me can get fucked.

But we need to act now or you're fucked anyway. Remove the cap on social security. Raise taxes on the wealthy. There are dozens of these options that have been floated about for decades.

Save yourselves before you try and save others, half of whom wouldn't bother to save you once they are comfortable.

[-] bhmnscmm@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Everyone older than me can get fucked.

Just wait until they say that about you. I don't know what your age is, but your generational cohort certainly hasn't done everything perfectly either. No "generation" ever has, and never will.

[-] Clent@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

I don't need to wait. I encourage you to do it now.

Don't worry about me. Take care of yourself first.

Don't assume those younger than you will take care of you.

Take responsibility. Take control. If that means you burn this motherfucker to the ground to make it happen, I will support you. But don't do it because I would support it, do it because it's what you feel is necessary.

[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Nope. The problem is not class. They could have implemented a better world and choose not to.

I hear you bud. I would suggest what you actually mean is that the problem is class and it's the Boomers who are siding with capitalist class against the working class. People try to gaslight us into thinking our criticism of Boomer means that we're creating this division. We are not. They are intentionally fucking us over.

[-] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

The problem is not class.

This tells me everything I need to know about you.

[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

Eh I would give that comment some grace. They've been misled to believe attacking Boomers is being a class traitor. Rather than the reality which is that Boomers are generally either capitalists themselves or working class traitors.

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