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I understand not only the what, but the why (lemmy.world)
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[-] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Well replace "company" with "country" and the only arguments you bring forward is about democracy in general being bad. You later argued logistical difficulties with a multi national company, which is a different argument. And I'd concede that there are legitimate arguments against this, but your argument are just very general "demorcacy bad". Lol I'll leave that typo as it is.

I made a very specific argument – people/citizen of a country not being allowed to have a direct say in how the country is run

I think that one political side or the other would vote for their ideology to take control – they would vote for unfettered free speech, which would remove all hate speech laws and so forth.

My central point was that just because I believe government shouldn’t answer to the myriad of voters & citizens they serve doesn’t mean I don’t believe in democracy on a wider scale.

[-] GabrielBell12fi@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

You could replace "company" with "rabbit" and my argument would make no sense.

Does that make me a raving lunatic?

This is what I meant when I said "You sound insane" -- if you change someone's argument to something completely different then IT'S NOT THEIR ARGUMENT ANY MORE and you are entirely misquoting them.

[-] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

It's called Reductio ad absurdum. If your logic is absurd about people voting in a democracy, then you'd have to provide some rationale why it's not absurd when applied to voting in economic systems. There are good arguments against this.

But your only point was that it would be utter chaos, like it was a given. And that is the same argument authoritarians, monarchists, dictators and plutocrats have been making forever - and are making right now. Right now they are spreading this propaganda around, everywhere. And you picked it up and used it. And that is how they maintain power. That is the actual mechanism of thought control in western "democracies".

[-] GabrielBell12fi@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

My argument would be people don't own the companies.

They do -- from a certain point of view -- own their countries.

So while they have no right to have a say in the operation of the companies, they do have a right to have a say in the operation of their countries.

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