@swlabr @skillissuer Not sure what a Bill Burr is but that's a traditionally idiotic statement. Doping in cycling isn't about steroids and hasn't been for decades - it's an endurance sport so these days when it occurs it's all about the blood doping, all EPO and transfusions and stuff to get your red cell count as high as possible. This is a really dangerous thing to do if you want to avoid joining the list of young cyclists who dropped dead of mysterious heart problems in the last 20 years, and if you suddenly start saying *that* is okay there will be a lot more kids having cardiac arrests because their blood resembles Heinz Cream of Tomato Soup.

It’s like they refuse to understand why we banned PEDs. Like I’m generally in the “destroy your body if you insist” camp, but they will destroy your body if used at performance enhancing levels. There’s three healthy human ranges for testosterone, male, female, and between them. If you’re in the wrong healthy range it’ll fuck with your brain, but if you go much above male your body is going to start suffering for it. And that’s the one that all of us produce for all of our lives. Other PEDs can do some real bad shit to you. It’s part of why wrestlers don’t live long