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[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago

Maybe one day we will produce a civilization capable of using technology as it comes out instead of one that decided to call it quits decades ago. Oh sure we got cellphones but we are still burning coal. Because nuclear is scary.

[-] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think nuclear energy is a great idea in theory, but I have absolutely zero trust in companies handling nuclear waste responsibly. It's not like they have a great track record.

That being said, pretty excited about this if it's as safe as they say.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago

So nationalize them. Problem solved.

[-] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

That's the dream!

[-] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Do you trust our current governmental structures to manage something with that much potential for harm when it goes wrong? I sure don't. Sure, it might go great for a long while, but then you get one far-right administration that wants to cut regulations.

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 4 points 9 months ago

How many nukes does the US have?

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

I trust them far more than greedy corporations run by greedy billionaires, absolutely. For many reasons, not the least of which is the elimination of the profit motive.

You're acting like we don't already have these. This isn't new and we have tons of prior experience to learn from.

[-] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I wish I could be as optimistic as you are.

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[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

You have every right to not trust companies, I don't either. Good thing we have multiple government regulators and multiple non-profit engineering/standards boards also involved.

[-] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Sure, I just want to feel confident that said regulations actually have teeth and the punishment can't just be factored into the cost of doing business.

So, yes, I'm scared. Maybe that's not rational, but I don't want to look back in 40 years and find out we were wrong about the longevity of nuclear waste storage, or that the many minor infractions over the years have slowly built up into a real problem. I don't want to discover that we've been outsourcing the most dangerous work to developing countries with less employee and environmental protections than our own. If there's a viable method that's inherently safer, I'd feel a little better about it.

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[-] Orygin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

That's why there were no incidents in Japan a decade ago. Especially not after multiple reports of potential danger 🤷‍♂️.

I have the same reserves as the person you commented on. "We" may have great agencies working to prevent issues, but it's not the case everywhere in the world. And if you want to use fission as a solution for climate change, you need to have every developing country to use it too, whatever the stability of the region.

Just look at Ukraine where the safety of one their reactor is on the line because of the war, and the mines Russia put all over. Chernobyl 2.0 if things go wrong :(

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[-] miak@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

From what I recall of Three Mile Island, I don't know that I'd put a lot of trust in the NRC.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

I'm pretty sure Three Mile Island is more of a case study in how safety measures at nuclear plants can work.

[-] miak@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Except it took a whistle blower to point out the reckless behavior during the clean-up to prevent a potential catastrophic event when the NRC was all for signing off on the reckless plan. That, plus the poor communication with the surrounding communities did not help the people there feel confident that their safety was being looked after

It's not been uncontested through out history, and I won't pretend that I follow the updates closely, but there have been studies suggesting increased cancer rates in the surrounding communities.

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[-] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Well, that's why you put well funded, independent organizations in charge of setting and enforcing the rules around this kind of stuff

And you don't just give them the power to fine the companies exploiting the reactors, you give them the power to unilaterally decide to shut down the reactors if they deem it necessary

[-] alekwithak@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

With a rigorous set of ethics and standards so the industry doesn't end up being overseen by a bunch of retired executives or getting kick-backs.

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