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We were talking about CAD software, I pointed out how the most prominent player in the CAD market (AutoDesk) have screwed over their customers. People bought permanent lifetime licenses, now those licenses have been degraded and they cannot use their product in the industry. It's not simply the case that AutoCAD is now an annual subscription priced at a higher cost, but the older product as provided by the manufacturer isn't the same as what was paid for.
If you pirate earlier versions of AutoCAD, you sidestep these issues (for the most part, new versions still pop up with a warning if the .dwg has been edited in an older version).
It's not a strawman argument, it's a tangental argument that is very relevant to the subject at hand. Pirated versions are sometimes better than the official versions.
No, you're misunderstanding the term "stolen" and "theft". You should really look it up.
It is a straw man because I never made that argument. I never stated or made any kind of position about pirated versions and how they compare to official versions. In fact, I've argued elsewhere in this thread that piracy can be justified in any number of situations. Whether it's justified or not doesn't change that it's stealing.
I am not. In fact, people have posted the definitions here. Again, we're just disagreeing on what is being stolen.
Either way, I'm done here because you're continuing to argue straw men, ignore the most central idea of my argument, and then claiming that I'm misunderstanding something when the entire point of my argument is how the two things are fundamentally the same and result in the creator not being paid for their work.
I didn't say you made any sort of argument. I just introduced a tangential point to put things in perspective.
My argument wasn't contradicting yours. It just provided better framing to the argument overall. You're far too narrow in your perspective here.
Yes, sure, because you're claiming that things were stolen when you never had them to begin with, and wouldn't have had them if the action hadn't occurred. Thus, no theft has occurred.