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Problem is that the only two other options is to either turn a blind eye on what looked like the start of a genocide, or having two nuclear power at open war.
Abandon Ukraine means it put its own wellfare above human rights, in which case Putin would be right to despise the West.
Go at war with Russia would put humanity on risk of annihilation as both side has enough nuclear weapons to wipe it out. Multiple times.
Having the Ukrainian choose their destiny by defending their land, while not ideal, is the only option that the West have to stay true to its ideals. The West populations are not blind to their sacrifices, and as long as they are willing to fight for their rightful territory, so are the West to provide the means to do so.
@Dremor @index
Washington is in a state of total chaos. The US effectively has no government.
There's plenty of options such as not trying to conquer the world and waging proxy wars against other nations or as putting money before human lives. The whole west governments gang is supporting genocide in gaza right now, they don't give a shit about people. They profit on wars and seek more of it.
Imagine being so deluded as to try to frame the largest country on earth, Russia, as the victim here. How, according to your world view, have they become so big? Did the now-Russian ethnic minorities simply surrender their lands to be taken over by some Slavs in Moscow?
Honestly, you need to have a 10 minute conversation with a Russian to understand how utterly brainwashed they are. The majority of the Russians are rooting for an imperialist fashist.
indeed, why are you doing it? If you believe anyone pointing out facts is defending russia you are brainwashed on propaganda.
Shitty opinions are not facts.
That governments uses tax money to build weapons designed to invade other countries is a fact. Look at what russia and israel are doing right now and what usa has been doing for the past decades. Politicians ambitions are below anyone nose to see, unless you are naive enough to drink into their lies and believe that ukraine need to be denazificated, that everyone in gaza is hamas and that iraq has weapons of mass destruction.
Care to explain how the US is currently trying to conquer the world when they are at their least imperialistic point in history? NATO isn't an answer, NATO membership is requested by the member country, not forced by NATO (or the US)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_military_installations
@MetaCubed @index
The US political process is so DYSFUNCTIONAL, that Washington is incapable of making even the simplest decisions. Issues are discussed ad nauseum, but action is rarely taken. Much has been made of action taken against the Houthis, but the Houthis are a disposable asset of Iran. "We have taken action against Iran," is a bald-faced lie. Russia has evil intentions towards the USA, but nothing has been done to make them fear real consequences. The USA looks weak ATM.