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It would be nice if we had more to celebrate than what amounts to sick burns.
Does it help or hurt that Biden also gave a eulogy at Strom Thurmmond's funeral?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/biden-will-need-partners-to-restore-our-institutions-where-will-he-find-them/2020/10/27/11f3f506-186d-11eb-befb-8864259bd2d8_story.html
That article makes me like Biden even more. There's something to be said for someone who can respect all people and maintain his value set over his entire life.
Uhhh, no. Segregationists don't deserve the benefit of the doubt whatsoever. You can't be a good person and simultaneously fight against people's basic human rights. Those are two completely contradictory points.
Fuck Strom and fuck Biden.
Strom Thurmond changed his mind about race relations over time. Do you think that would've happened if Biden threw up his hands and said "fuck this guy"? He relentlessly went back to Thurmond with unconditional positive regard and advocated for a better world, and that's how you make a difference, not your black or white dismissive bullshit. What even is your goal if not trying to change minds and build more equitable institutions?
Well I'm glad he changed his mind as soon as he had no power to do anything about it. Meanwhile he spent 24 hours fillibustering in favor of segregation. So yeah: fuck that guy and Biden for acting like he's done any good. Harmful actions remain even if you change your mind.
My goal is to listen to people and allow them basic human rights. Especially when I have the political power to grant it like Strom once did. It's not hard at all believe it or not.
Dude, I'm not defending Strom Thurmond in any way. I'm defending Biden treating him with respect. If you had political power, you'd realize building relationships is one of the primary mechanisms through which you get what you believe in accomplished. I bet you dismiss Lyndon Johnson out of hand the same way you do Joe Biden. Smh
You're damn right Lyndon Johnson can fuck himself. In fact Johnson can fuck himself even harder than Biden by most accounts. Vietnam was an absolute disaster for everyone involved, and that dumb shit is one of the primary reasons the US got involved and massacred a ton of innocent people.
And I don't care who you're defending or not. No part of what I believe in involves segregation/constant war crimes whatsoever. And there should be no respect given to anyone espousing or condoning such beliefs. They lost any ounce of respect they might gain as soon as they started their racist dehumanizing bullshit. The world was a better place after Strom died. The world was a better place after Johnson died.
Fuck Medicare and Medicaid, right? Fuck civil rights, voting rights, food stamps, the clean water and clean air acts, PBS, NPR, and the NTSB, right? Let me guess, you would've voted third party and see no difference between Johnson and Goldwater
Medicare and Medicaid are a bandaid that do fuck all for the current US healthcare environment. I don't give a single shit about PBS, or NPR. The NTSB would have happened regardless of administration. And I don't give a single fuck about who was up for election 1964. Johnson pulled the trigger on Vietnam and murdered millions as a result. Not that I expect you to care at all.
And it doesn't matter how I vote because I live in a hard red state in a US where the electoral college still exists. So I won't vote for Joe or Trump since Trump is a racist fuck and Biden is giving funds to genociding zionists in the middle east. Anymore dumb questions?
You're just delightful to speak with!
At least you're done with the dumb questions!