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Morgan Stanley Credits ‘Bidenomics’ for Economic Surge
(politicalwire.com)
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Please, sane rando on the internet, pray tell, what more intelligent things would you like to share without any context or citations of source?
The person your responding to is absolutely correct. For the majority of Biden's career he was pretty despicable politician. He was one of the angry men yelling at the Anita Hill hearings. He famously lied about his credentials early on. For most of his career he has been owned by wall street. in the 70's, 80's and 90's he publicly had pretty hardcore racist and homophobic views. The Biden you see today is not the Biden most of America knows. He has never been a progressive ally.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/joe-biden-record-on-busing-incarceration-racial-justice-democratic-primary-2020-explained.html
He _is_the progressive ally that we need now.
It's unfortunate he was not perfect in the past, but he's changed and making amends. Why do Republicans have an issue with that?
not only was he not perfect in the past; but he still stand by his wrong decisions to this day.
Progressive ally? Biden was literally the candidate that the establishment put their full force behind (including having Obama make calls to have other candidates drop to back him) in order to defeat Bernie in 2020. Biden himself said "nothing would fundamentally change". A couple bones thrown here or there doesn't change that. I don't know if democrats are astroturfing here of all places or people are just deluding themselves into thinking he's doing more than he actually is, but he's really not.
And yet somehow he was the still the best available option.
he's an opportunist and knows that trump is unpopular outside his base; he's not the best available option, he's the ONLY viable option.
They're not correct at all lol
Biden has never been a racist. People try to call him racist over a crime bill half-written by black congressional leaders and loudly asked for by the black community.
Biden has literally always been a stand up guy
Calling out his busing stance as wrong when it was prescient and he was 100% correct about a generation of black educators losing their jobs is... An interesting take, to say the least.
Maybe don't get your news from rags
Did you not see his response in the primary debates when kamala called out his segregation policies? Rather than admit that it was the wrong decision, he defended it and used the times as an excuse. Just look at his voting record, he's been very conservative over his career. It doesn't matter though, people change, and actions speak louder than words. He's doing good stuff as president and that's what matters right now.
Edit: spelled Kamala wrong and I'm embarrassed
Perhaps rather than an abrupt about-face at 80 years old, you're simply incorrect about Biden's "history."
He was right about schools. We lost a generation of black educators due to the way desegregation was handled nationwide. Biden accurately commented on this. We could have done better, which is literally what he was arguing for.
I actually learned of this fact tangentially, through an old episode of Revisionist History. His campaign ignored it because it's safer to ignore than to trust people to understand nuance. Sound campaign move, but plays to a lie, fundamentally.
Well hey that's interesting, I'll have to go read about that. Thanks!
Can you at least try to spell the VP's name right enough that people know who you're talking about?
Yup that's embarrassing
you're splitting hairs and you're being disingenuous by ignoring all the other bad shit he's done. off the top of my head his stances against gay marriage, against gays in the military and permanent-for-life student debt are enough to brand him an ass hat and the fact that he still stands by those decisions proves that he's not worthy of your vote.
you should educate yourself
Lol this is awesome because your very first example is not only false, it was considered a minor scandal at the time: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-gaymarriage/biden-apologizes-to-obama-for-same-sex-marriage-remark-idUSBRE8491NH20120510
Then he, you know, signed gay marriage into federal law.
Kinda stopped reading there but I'm assuming you said similarly wrong things.
Yes because that was the one and only time that gay marriage was a topic of conversation lol
You claimed that he opposes gay marriage. That is false. It is a newsworthy level of false.
and someone else found this: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/biden-gay-marriage-history
here's another that just now taught me that he's a bigger dirt bag than i realized: https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/trump-campaign-press-release-nothing-be-proud-the-biden-lgbt-record
Lmao instead of finding the same document over and over you could just ask me about the electability of a Presidential candidate openly supporting gay marriage in the years just before you were born.
You could just... You know... Learn
lmfao take your own medicine: i've provided proof that he's a 2-faced politician that gives into peer pressure and whatever gets him votes while avoiding anything unpopular and you're still rejecting it like a maga-ite.
secondly: they're not the same document, it's merely you actively refusing proof that contradicts your beliefs
finally: i'm old enough for doma, dont-ask-dont-tell and student loan debt to fuck me over permanently which is why i'm so salty when ignorant fools point to him as a worthy candidate.
Lol pretty hard to be old enough for doma and dadt to fuck you over "permanently" since they don't exist any more.
I get it dude I was in my 20s once too. Purity tests and passion.
You'll get better
thank you for re-affirming my belief that liberals are just a stubborn and willfully ignorant as maga when presented with evidence that their beliefs are wrong.
this world so fucked; but the the silver lining for me is that i'm old enough to be dead before the shit fully hits the fan and i hope that you get to enjoy its full affects.
I was pretty sure my statement about you growing up and improving was a strong hint that I don't much care about your beliefs.
I might some day tho! Never stop growing.
and another https://www.facebook.com/WashingtonBlade/videos/trump-campaign-just-blasted-out-his-clip-of-biden-against-same-sex-marriage-in-2/297576781630948/
i happened to come across this article and shared with another who refuses to believe biden is an shitty political opportunist: https://www.washingtonblade.com/2019/07/11/in-1996-sanders-and-biden-were-on-opposite-sides-of-doma-vote/
i hope you're young because being ignorant of his very public stances against gay marriage; against gays in the military; pro-segregation and non-dischargeable student loan debt is the only way you can be excused from knowning and a 30 second google search will confirm that he still stands by those decisions. educate yourself.
Unfortunately I'm old. Can you please help me out by linking articles that support your statements, so I can read them and help you change my mind about him? Thank you.
i happened to come across and article and thought of you: https://www.washingtonblade.com/2019/07/11/in-1996-sanders-and-biden-were-on-opposite-sides-of-doma-vote/
Hell yes, thank you. I'll edit my comment if I read anything notable that I would like to ask you.
Edit #1:
Is the article implying that Biden is only voting in favor to ban gay marriage because he is succumbing to peer pressure?
I've learned the hard way from Reddit that these kinds of requests will only result in my wasted time and it's not my responsibility to educate you; use Google
here's another https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/biden-gay-marriage-history
Okay I see, so he's a two-faced politician who doesn't understand the full picture. It's all coming together now why certain groups within the Left don't like him.
So you have me on your side now. What options do we have in the next election cycle?
none since too many people support him completely out of ignorance of what he's done and said; like you did.
it's mind blowing that there are literally videos of him doing shitty things that a 30 second google search will show you, but people will still refused to believe it; we're no better than maga-ites
Not true because this conversation between you and I have been sane, respectful, and you changed my mind with facts. They aren't capable of this feat and will stagnate.
my maga father changed his mind when presented with facts; also my exchanges with others; and all the downvotes in this same thread are reaffirming my suspicion that liberals and maga are the same.
here's another https://www.facebook.com/WashingtonBlade/videos/trump-campaign-just-blasted-out-his-clip-of-biden-against-same-sex-marriage-in-2/297576781630948/
This one won't load for me because I have my firewall block the entire Facebook domain. Can you provide a summary?
it came from here: https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/trump-campaign-press-release-nothing-be-proud-the-biden-lgbt-record
Ok, so fuck Biden lol. What option is there for the next election cycle?