New Zealand's birth rate falls to lowest since World War II (www.rnz.co.nz)

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[-] BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz 1 points 8 months ago

The problem is simple and there are only two possible solutions maybe three if you push it. This isn't some complex thing.

[-] Rangelus@lemmy.nz 1 points 8 months ago

If it's so simple why don't you post your solution then?

[-] BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz 1 points 8 months ago

There are only three solutions.

Implant babies in women.
Allow more immigrants.
Kill older people or at least urge them to kill themselves to solve this crisis that's going to destroy their country.

Then again I completely and utterly reject your insane alarmism over this issue. I don't think this is some massive problem that's going to destroy the country or GASP!!! make us like Japan. Imagine New Zealand being like Japan. Can anybody imagine something so horrible!!!

Honestly your alarmism is unhinged.

[-] Rangelus@lemmy.nz 1 points 8 months ago

Man you really are a muppet aren't you?

Implant babies in women. Allow more immigrants. Kill older people or at least urge them to kill themselves to solve this crisis that’s going to destroy their country.

Or encourage families to have kids through incentives? Or increase wages and lower the cost of child care so couples can afford it now? Or combat social norms that women are supposed to stay at home? There are lots of ideas that aren't "force women to have babies" and "kill all old people". I can only assume you are being intentionally obtuse, because I can't imagine you are so stupid to think that these are the only options.

Then again I completely and utterly reject your insane alarmism over this issue. I don’t think this is some massive problem that’s going to destroy the country or GASP!!! make us like Japan. Imagine New Zealand being like Japan. Can anybody imagine something so horrible!!!

You do realize it's not just me, but lots of countries and scientists around the world pointing to the problems that can arise from a rapidly aging population, right? Take Korea, for example. They have the worlds lowest birth rate, and this year it dropped even lower to 0.78 children per woman. By 2067, it is predicted that 46% of the population will be over 65. Can you really not grasp how this will have huge ramifications for a society? When the working population is drastically lower than it is now? How will this affect the economy? Who will look after all the retired people when they need care? And so on and so on. It's not a hard concept, despite you doing your damnedest to channel a moron.

Honestly your alarmism is unhinged.

What alarmism? I simply pointed out it will be a problem if it continues. I didn't shout "WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT NOW!" or anything, did I? I pointed out it is already starting to be a problem in other countries, which is true, and you started going on about forcing pregnancies and other stupid shit.

By the way, most countries where the birth rate is significantly below replacement level have started trying to combat this, usually with financial incentives for having children. Some, such as Korea, have spent billions on this. If it isn't a problem, why waste all that money?

[-] BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz 1 points 8 months ago

Or encourage families to have kids through incentives?

Wait. I thought you said you were not capable of coming up with solutions.

You do realize it’s not just me, but lots of countries and scientists around the world pointing to the problems that can arise from a rapidly aging population, right?

Yea lots of scientists around the world are also claiming the covid vaccine is harmful.

hey have the worlds lowest birth rate, and this year it dropped even lower to 0.78 children per woman. By 2067, it is predicted that 46% of the population will be over 65. Can you really not grasp how this will have huge ramifications for a society?

Yea it will not have any major ramifications.

When the working population is drastically lower than it is now? How will this affect the economy?

With increased automation and AI it will not effect the economy at all. If anything it will help because we are going to need less people to do the same work anyway.