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[-] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I'm really not trying to be combative with you brother. I'm not going to be friendly to the viewpoint you're supporting, but I'm just a person like you -- trying to make sense of the world and telling you how I see it. You've got no call to be getting insulting or cursing at me just because I'm disagreeing with you.

I think the fascist pogroms against ethnic Russians in Ukraine didn't exist. The Russian government's lies leading up to the invasion are well-documented, so it seems weird to argue that their claims of violence against ethnic Russians in Ukraine is unimpeachable evidence that it was happening. Do you have documentation or support for it happening? Do you have a ballpark for how many people were killed or injured in this violence?

I don't know why you're talking so mockingly about that question. The objective facts of what was happening are important.

[-] m532@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think the fascist pogroms against ethnic Russians in Ukraine didn’t exist.

That's the problem, you are denying a genocide that has lots of evidence.

[-] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Can you send me some of this evidence? How many people were killed in this genocide?

[-] PoY@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Look two comments above that was posted 15 minutes before you asked this. It seems you're bent on trying to deny what doesn't fit your 'feelings'.

[-] ksdhf@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Edit: sorry replied to the wrong person

[-] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nah, see, I'm not cordial with sealions at all. And that's exactly what you're doing. JAQ'ing off, I think they call it now. So we're just gonna ignore all the shelling in the leadup to the 2020s? We're just gonna ignore the GLOBAL HEADLINES that made? We're just gonna ignore the 14,000 dropped bodies since 2014? We're just gonna ignore all the Wolfsengels, Totenkopfs, and other assorted nazi paraphernalia while you hoist all those water buckets?

I can't wait to see what you'll ignore when those chickens finally come home to roost. Fuck out my inbox; you're no longer welcome to a dialogue with me. It was funny, now you're just sickening me.

[-] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Nothing says "My viewpoint's on solid footing" like responding to clear factual questions with vigorous anger, insults, and angry refusal to continue the conversation.

But sure, it's 100% up to you who you want to communicate with and how. I'll not respond to you again if that's your preference.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How about response on the wall of info Redtea sent you? You didn't commented any of that, signifying BCR is absolutely correct.

[-] WhatWouldKarlDo@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 1 year ago
[-] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

This is accurate, yes; the neo-Nazi organization and their involvement in the 2014 revolution are real.

How does that justify Russia's invasion? Are they defending Ukrainians against neo-Nazis, by bombing Ukrainian cities, and a Jewish leader is leading the Ukrainians in a war of aggression on Ukrainian soil against their well-intentioned de-Nazification effort? I'm not trying to be flip about something so serious, but it sounds like that's what some other people in this thread are telling me. Would you agree with all of that, or how would you characterize it?

[-] WhatWouldKarlDo@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago

I think the real reason Russia invaded was because they could not tolerate Ukraine joining NATO. The US wouldn't do anything different if this had happened in Canada during the cold war. Hell, they invaded Cuba for this. I'm sympathetic to Russia on this one because I do NOT want a unipolar world.

A Jewish leader does not mean that Ukraine is not dangerously far right wing. It's like saying racism is defeated in the US because it had a black president. As for bombing Ukraine? Look up Ukraine's cluster bomb usage in 2014-2022. When your soldiers are using weapons that are banned in most of the world on your own citizens, and your soldiers are wearing skulls on their uniforms, you surely have to ask if you're the baddies?

Basically, I think NATO didn't leave Russia much choice. And I don't support fascist nations anyway. Sorry, no links this time. At the airport.

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