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submitted 8 months ago by otter@lemmy.ca to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

I hear people say that about Nextcloud often, which is part of why I haven't bothered setting it up yet.

Is there a technical reason why it's slow and clunky? Any problematic choices with how it was built?

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[-] muelltonne@feddit.de 11 points 8 months ago

Yeah, and don't pretend that comparable software like Google Drive, Sharepoint or Dropbox is faster.

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 0 points 8 months ago

I compare it to a samba or (s)ftp share. I wish it was similar in speed and ease of use.

It's become better since I migrated over to PostgreSQL. But it's still not great.

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 10 points 8 months ago

Why would you compare to something so utterly different?

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 4 points 8 months ago

I'd argue that the primary function of Nextcloud is to serve files. Of course the other services lack other stuff, which is why I'm still using Nextcloud. But I still wish its performance was similar to pure file servers.

[-] cron@feddit.de 8 points 8 months ago

I think the file server analogy isn't really fair. Nextcloud is better compared to Microsoft 365 or Google GSuite.

All of these offer file storage, but also much more.

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 2 points 8 months ago

Sure. But serving files is the core functionality of Nextcloud. You can remove every other functionality. But the files app cannot be removed.

[-] owen@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago

I agree. They're suffering from feature creep I fear

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 0 points 8 months ago

I disagree. The extras and modularity are the core functionality. If you're just serving files, there's SFTP, WebDAV, etc.

[-] dust_accelerator@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 8 months ago

PostgreSQL is definitely a boost to performance, especially if you offload the DB to a dedicated server (depending on load, can even be a cluster)

Nevertheless, it probably has much to do with how it's deployed and how many proxies are in front of it, and/or VPN. If you have large numbers of containers and small CPU/low memory hardware, and either running everything on one machine or have some other limitations, it'll be slow.

Admittedly, I'm not very familiar with the codebase, but I feel Apache isn't improving the speed either. Not exactly sure how PHP is nowadays with concurrency and async, but generally a microservice type architecture is nice because you can add more workers/instances wherever a bottleneck emerges.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago

Apache is plenty fast enough for self-hosting scenarios.

[-] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

My install is basically instant. Might be your connection?

[-] TCB13@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

Dropbox is faster.

Dropbox is A LOT faster than NC ever was. But if you want to talk about speeds and reliability then use Synching. Add FileBrowser if you want to have a WebUI on a central “server” to access all your files and you’ll be 100x better than the garbage that NC offers.

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