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[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 92 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Good. Sweden has very strong military capabilities with their Total Defense strategy. They also have very advanced weapons development and a huge defense industry, including their Gripen fighter jets. NATO got a lot stronger today.

[-] Muscar@discuss.online 73 points 8 months ago

As a Swede I often find myself thankful we don't have the military brainwashing the US has, even though we have a strong military for such a small country. The army stuff is there if you look but if you don't care you don't notice it much, if at all. I'm not invested enough to have a really informed opinion about us joining NATO. But from what I know it'll be a good thing, just being able to help countries more that need it is enough of a reason IMO.

[-] KrokanteBamischijf@feddit.nl 28 points 8 months ago

NATO was originally founded so that we'd stop invading each other, which should still hold true today.

I like to think of most developed nations as young adults. All of us are supposed to be mature, which means no more war. We can just talk about things like responsible adults.

Sadly, some of these younger fucks still haven't grasped the concept of "don't be an idiot", and we now need NATO for a strong message of "no, you're not going to touch us, there will be consequences". It's a sad thing that we still need to do so, but I'd rather have a large group of friends that I'm sure will have my back if someone would start shit.

So yes, Sweden joining NATO is a good thing. If anything it will lead to better cooperation and coordination between our countries. Not just in the event of war, but just sharing defense resources and intelligence as well. But the best argument is that we just like you Swedes, and we want to keep hanging out together.

[-] uis@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago

You are confusing NATO and UN. UN was founded so that we'd stop invading each other.

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago

NATO was, too. It's like nuclear weapons. Deterrence. Not meant to be used, but it's a stabilizer.

That's why Trump's words are so harmful. It undermines the deterrence value and the trust. Even though the US is the only country that has ever needed to activate Article 5, after 911. But he probably doesn't even know that.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago

NATO formed as a check on the threat to capitalism posed by the Soviet Union.

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago

Now it's a check on the threat of the kleptocracy that is the Russian Federation.

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