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Sucker Punch (2011) (technically not made in my 'adult' life, since I was still a teenager, but semantics)
I genuinely love this movie and don't understand how it's rated so poorly. Sure it's got that Zack Snyder-flair (but I think it actually works for this??) and it can seem a little gratuitous. but even then to me it seems like it's done to make a point instead of just 'hehehe hot girls in short skirts'. The action is awesome, the sets are cool af, the soundtrack is phenomenal, the cast is great, the plot is interesting, (and sure, maybe me being a mega gay means I'm giving this a higher rating then I otherwise might have) - it's just overall a great movie to me. I do wonder how much of the ratings is a symptom that all women lead films suffer from review bombs by some upsetti-spaghetti men, but even I think this movie is not generally liked by most.
As a straight man, I also liked Sucker Punch for reasons other than "hot girls in short skirts". It was a bit over the top, but I concur with every point you made.
Oh 100% over the top, for sure lol
As a gay lady, I liked it for the skirts AND The swords.
Same reason I liked Beowulf. No, sister, Angelina Jolie's performance was not the main draw for me.
That scene where the fallen king lies briefly on the beach next to his maddened engoldened son, before the sea washes him away.
I liked it for all the reasons.
The short skirts were a bonus for me but perhaps a handicap to getting a decent rating. I've always thought it should have gotten a better reception than it did.
I like Sucker Punch, but I think think the gratuitous costumes worn by the women during the fantasy sequences hold it back. Not because such outfits are inherently flawed, but because the execution contradicts the message of the film.
This is a movie about women dealing with sexual abuse, and the fantasy action sequences both serve as a metaphor for them overcoming the struggle and as a means to empower them. But the way the costumes were designed and the scenes were shot end up feeling exploitative in a way that the text of the film would seemingly be against. This is a recurring problem I have with Zack Snyder; his choices in visual storytelling are often at odds with the actual story he is trying to tell.
Hypersexuality is literally how a lot of women deal with sexual abuse/trauma
That fact just gives us the ick so we collectively like to ignore it.