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So if someone truly has values that fall on both sides of the aisle, and can tell you what they don’t agree with on both sides, and can admit fault to each side… that makes them Republican?
I’d rather take someone any day that will take a stance on individual issues over just agreeing with what a specific political party says.
Everyone saying in this comment section that you aren’t strictly a Democrat you’re wrong/the problem… are indeed themselves the problem and are kidding themselves.
Right : kill all minorities. Left : noooooooo Centrist : lets save half of them! Go figure.
So what if someone doesn’t want to kill minorities but wants to buy guns and wants limited government involvement in the economy?
Then they don't vote R.
I put the lives of people over my personal need for luxury items like guns.
Republicans are also the government that involves themselves the most in everything. "Small gov"-republicans are a farce unless you want a dictator.
The point is you’re talking in extremes. And I will agree extreme liberals are better than extreme conservatives, the world isn’t that black and white, especially when you talk about voting for anyone besides President.
Limited government involvement in the economy means wanting to kill poor people, which means wanting to kill minorities.
That may be the way you see it, but I don’t.
I suppose this is where you call me a Nazi because I disagree with you?
You're either a Nazi or a useful idiot for Nazis
No you
Do you have any actual policies that you agree with? Having guns and not killing minorities are not policies, that's just culture war shit.
With the left or the right?
A few things I side with: universal healthcare, reduced military spending, gay rights, legalization of marijuana, gun rights, reduced government spending in the business sector, reducing/overhauling the current farm bill, increased infrastructure spending.
Since you need to know? I said that because that’s how the person I was replying to put it, not me.
Hey, those are all left positions
Well, didn’t I say I was neither left or right?
If you're not a leftist, how come you agree with leftists on every political position you find important?
I said I wasn’t left or right, that’s it
If you go far enough left, you get your guns back. Libertarian socialism or Anarcho-communism might be your jam if you want to limit/abolishn the state
It actually is.
The point is the ones u end up supporting for buying guns will want to kill minorities with those guns ! And govt involvement in economy in the US might be the minimum except when it comes to rescue the rich !
So the only reason anyone buys a gun is to kill minorities?
And while the scope is small vs even smaller gov in the US, the difference is still there. To say it doesn’t matter is frankly ignorant.
Then it sounds like they're an anarcho-communist. Ancoms believe in an armed revolution to dismantle the government and protect minority rights. That fits all three of the things you described.
This is a bad strawman argument.
If someone says that they are "centrist" they are not telling you that they base all of their opinions on being in the middle of any two positions. That would be stupid and is an insane argument to put forth on your part.
They are telling you that they agree with neither major party on everything, and find that both parties have views that they don't agree with. It's pretty easy to come to that conclusion because the US two-party system packs in an almost incoherent mishmash of beliefs into exactly two sides.
There is absolutely no contradiction in being for police reform, and against riots lasting for days. There is no contradiction in being for gun rights, while also wanting limits on them. There is no contradiction in wanting functional government services and universal healthcare, and thinking that free markets are effective. There is no contradiction in wanting a more balanced budget, and government services to be funded.
The idea that there are only two (or maybe 2.5 depending on where you live) sides in politics is a strange delusion created by your two party system.
This is literally the definition of the Democratic party right now in the USA. So while I understand you're point, you're failing to see where people are coming from.
Those are examples. I'm speaking to a left wing audience and am using examples they understand. If I were speaking to a right wing audience, I would adjust accordingly.
Haha le funny meme