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No, that Ukraine is forcing captured Russians to fight for them.
I'm assuming you're a legit Russian troll, because anyone with at least a 5th grade understanding of English wouldn't need this spelled out for them.
Like I say, you're either playing dumb or you are dumb. Which is it?
They're an alt for a hexbear account... so it's still an open question.
Sorry, what's that mean, or imply?
Hexbear is an instance full of trolls and tankies that's been defederated from a bunch of instances.
Other way around my hexbear account is an alt of this one
Who is talking about captured russians, Ukraine is forcing russians living in ukraine with ukrainian passports to fight for them, regardless of whether they want to or not. Im baffled at why this is considered controversial its not secret... Maybe underreported, but it seems people here have really bought into the good vs bad narrative anyway and anyone who dares criticize ukraine or st. Zelensky must be a russian troll. The implication being that russian opinions are to be dismissed because of the nationality of the person?
Well, considering the article is about Russians forcing Ukrainians to fight, that's what rational people would think you meant by "Ukraine is doing the exact same thing."
No. Ukraine is not doing "the exact same thing." Both Ukraine and Russia are forcing their own respective countrymen to fight. Only Russia is forcing Ukrainians to fight for Russia.
If you had a point, then that would be Ukraine forcing Russians to fight for Ukraine, which isn't true.
But I've already given you more than you deserve. You are clearly a sad Russian troll who is just doing his best not to get fired.
Good luck coming up with a response to this, I can't wait to see how jumbled and illogical it is.
But it is? They are literally forcing people no matter their ethnicity or conscientous objections to fight?
You talking Russian citizens in Ukraine, or ethnically Russian Ukrainian citizens?
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What a rude edit, there really is no point extending good faith in this community it gets thrown right back in your face.
I mean, what you're doing is definitely worse than being rude. This goes beyond basic ignorance. You're being a bad person. You're demonstrating to all that your parents did a terrible job raising you. Be better or live with the shame forever
There's nothing "good faith" about your lies
Russians with ukrainian passports, like I said 5 comments ago.
Hey I'm just curious. Wasn't sure if "has a passport" was the same thing as being a citizen, which I assume would make you eligible for the draft.
Sorry people here are really hostile. Yeah you must be a citizen of a nation if you want a passport from them.
And is Ukraine forcing unwilling Russians to become Ukrainian citizens?
Its forcing pro-fed russians to fight
No
"Belgium is forcing French living in Belgium with Belgian passports to fight for them".
Those people are Ukrainians. Russian speakers were the first to volunteer and fight, btw. If you think that speaking a particular language at home means that you want to live in a fascist empire that happens to speak the same language I suggest you check your leftist credentials as they have become null and void.
Zelensky himself is a native Russian speaker, btw.
Ukraine doesn't allow for double nationality, and has the right to conscript it's citizens, so even if those people felt Russian,if they got an Ukrainian citizenship, they are bind to that. There's no fucking chance they are conscripting Russian migrants with Russian nationality and passport.
Source: my SO had to lose Ukrainian citizenship when she got her citizenship in my home country, even if mine does allow it.
Not quite, but my understanding they're expats and the option was fight or get lost.
They arent. ukraine has a large russian minority especially in the east, hence them trying to secede from ukraine and join russia
Then those are Ukrainians not Russians though perhaps ethnically they might well be Russian, who cares. Fight for your country or get the fuck out, pretty literally every country at war does this.
Should we point to how one of the only ways out of Japanese internment camps was if you were useful to the war effort? Should we point to how Russia is forcing passports in occupied areas and then forcing Ukrainians to fight?
The lines you draw just paint a fucked up picture, you can hedge of you'd like but you're going to be in the wrong side of history on this one.