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The next years are going to be fun… The world is burning while the fossil fuel industry is chugging along like everything is great as long as you buy enough co2 credits.

I’m scared in what kind of world my children will have to live in…

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[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Eh, the current thing is El Niño, of course climate change makes it worse, but this event happens periodically.

[–] awderon@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

El Niño is the least of our problems. Even the article mentions it only in passing.

The article barely mentions it, yes thats literally why i said it, its right now the most impacting thing regarding Weather.

[–] guriinii@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

El Niño is a major problem. Before it kicked in the North Atlantic sea surface temperature was a full degree above last years record breaking temperature. The addition of el Niño, this summer, could have a terribly effect on Arctic sea ice extent, and potentially catastrophic next year summer.

Also the Antarctic sea ice is freezing at the slowest rate since they started recording in 1979, it is currently 2 million km^2^ below where it should be. As the extent will be so low at the peak of the southern hemisphere's winter, the melt season in summer, with the sea being hotter due to el Niño, is going to be pretty fucking bad. And with less white ice to reflect the heat, and more dark ocean to absorb it, it will get even hotter!

We temporarily crossed the 1.5°C threshold earlier this month. Next year it is likely we'll cross is more frequently.

El Niño while it is a cycle, because things are so fucked at the moment, it will only hasten ecological collapse.

Oh and it might finally kill off most coral.

[–] awderon@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I didn't want to downplay El Niño in any way. It's just one of the problems we are facing.

[–] guriinii@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Agree but I do think that our climate and weather systems are so complex that it's just one big thing. It's all interconnected. Like the soot from wild fire smoke landing on glaciers and sea ice, reducing albedo, increasing temperatures, making el Niño more hotter, causing more wild fires.

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

During non-el nino years do you also deny climate change?

[–] Stuka@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Where did they deny climate change? Did they edit?

Where the hell did I do that?

[–] Stuka@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Where did they deny climate change? Did they edit?

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This type of dismissal is a type of climate change denial.

“These things happen naturally.”
“The climate might be changing but it’s not as bad as is being portrayed.”
“Climate change might be happening but it’s not manmade.”
“Of course the climate is changing, we’re exiting an ice age.”

Some or all of the above might sound reasonable but a certain type of person bounces from excuse to excuse without recognizing or admitting there’s an actual catastrophe brewing.

[–] Stuka@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They didn't say anything like that...

They said, in fewer words, that the current heat is climate change exaggerated by El Nino, which is true.

I don't see how that's denying man-made climate change, or misrepresents the severity.

Man i literally said climate change makes it worse...

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can give the benefit of the doubt. I’ll choose not to.

I literally said that climate change makes it worse but ok Mister know it all...

[–] Boiglenoight@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The self-inflicted extinction of the human race is a natural occurrence. /s

It kinda is... I mean we already tried several times.

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Humans didn’t exist before God created them. This is a natural occurrence.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Humans created gods, not vice versa

[–] Marble_turret@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Ah my first downvote post reddit

Ok why? Any actual argument besides hive mind gambling?

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A downvote without any context or corrections doesn't really mean much.

[–] Marble_turret@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So you think the climate isn't changing because of carbon emissions? Oh my sweet summer child

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think the person brought up a point about El Nino and I was hoping to see an educated comment explaining why they were wrong, instead I just saw a lazy comment lolz quality comment.

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah yes i have to be wrong because? The biggest Water evaporation zone is shifting places, African countries see immense raining, Europe a very inconsistent summer and usa a super hot one, these changes don't come from climate change itself, thats El Nino. I literally said that climate change makes it more impacting.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah yes i have to be wrong because?

We'll never know because the guy that commented just gave a snarky downvote without an explanation of why you were wrong.

Yeah the recent influx of average redditors is very noticeable...

[–] grue@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think the person brought up a point about El Nino as a thread derailment tactic, and deserves to be downvoted for said bad-faith action.