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This is my take as well... if you get a hundred hugs and one slap, you're gonna remember the slap. And selling out the rail workers was one huge fucking slap.
I wonder why are you leaving out the part where the rail workers ended up getting almost everything they wanted in the following weeks?
Oh it definitely seemed like a slap at the time... but then as another commenter pointed out here, he got them like everything that they asked for (https://lemmy.world/comment/8562627 => https://www.ibew.org/media-center/Articles/23Daily/2306/230620_IBEWandPaid). Okay so it took 4-5 months more than was hoped, and in the end they did not get the "7 sick days" that e.g. Bernie Sanders wrote a letter in support of but rather 4 sick days + the ability to convert 3 PTO days into sick ones (which in some sense is better in terms of being more flexible, like if you needed a doctor's note or something, though obviously is still worse than like 7 sick days plus additional PTO days beyond that).
So my point is that we should be notified of both the successes and the failures, but our biased media seems to be only highlighting the latter, while virtually ignoring the former altogether. That leaves the general American public - who have jobs irl so do not have time to invest MANY hours hunting and rooting out proper information, both pro and con, on every single issue - unprepared to make a fully-informed decision.
So in retrospect... was it a slap & a "selling out" then? He stuck with them until it got done, just as he promised he would. And it did ultimately get done. He did not "abandon" them, he just did it differently. My words here are not a huge ringing endorsement in support of him, but neither are they biased anywhere nearly to the degree that the media is showing?