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Have you ever read the book "The Passover Plot"? The book presents an interesting theory of how the crucifixion and resurrection could have been done in human terms, not divine intervention. (lemmy.world)
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I read this book many, many years ago. I found the proposed theory interesting. I am not saying that I believe it.

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[-] shea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago

I feel like a lot of the big historical points had to have happened in some form or another in order to get enough people talking about it and spreading the word in the first place. Its easy to spread a lie, it's hard to spread one so thorough and believable that it shapes and integrates itself into the structure of human society potentially forever

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

The fact that the Romans crucified people is indisputable.

If Jesus of Nazareth existed, there is no reason to believe he was actually crucified (and it would have been a weird thing to do for violating Mosaic law since Jews didn't do that) and he certainly wasn't resurrected.

Remember, none of the Gospels were written during Jesus' lifetime and Mark, the earliest, was written decades later at best and the other gospels copy a lot from it. On top of that, the canon was established by committee centuries later.

So there is simply no reason to assume Jesus was crucified and there is some reason to believe that, if he existed, he wouldn't have been.

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 4 points 8 months ago

The concept of resurrection wasn't even new when Christianity started, it was something that existed in prior religions. Most likely inspired by someone who everyone thought had a mortal wound healed up over a few days merged with the concept of plants growing anew in the spring. Mix it with something like Prometheus being tortured for sharing knowledge and you have the creation and Jesus dying for our sins. The parts are all there from prior to the timeline that Jesus was supposed to have lived.

Like entertainment media, if you look at what came before you can see the inspiration for whatever was the big thing at any point in time. There isn't really anything new under the sun, just new takes on existing concepts.

Personally I think that someone named Jesus probably did live and inspire people who eventually wrote stories that were inspired by prior religious stories and attributed them to him. He was probably crucified, and the resurrection was likely something that someone a couple hundred years later wrote while inspired by other religious stories.

[-] Mickey7@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago

**The concept of resurrection wasn’t even new when Christianity started **

You point was clearly made by the Bill Maher movie "Religulous"

It's the same "story" recycled over and over with a bit of a different touch based on the culture

[-] Mickey7@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago

But there is a big difference between a human spreading a message of hope and kindness and a divine presence.

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