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I would actually be interested in vegan diets for babies. I know it should work theoretically, but you need to be very careful about not missing something. Babies probably have wildly different nutrient requirements than adults. I'll probably read up on it sometime sounds interesting.
BTW the real question is: "Is breast milk vegan?"
Breast milk is vegan if the mother consents to giving it.
I’ve always wondered about nutritional yeast though.
Like. How is that vegan.
We breathe in a swallow billions of bacteria all the time. Is that vegan?
… Nutritional Yeast is eaten on purpose though.
If you know bacteria exist and keep breathing, you are also ingesting them on purpose no?
We may have found the densest substance known to man here folks.
Breathing is a required function of living. If I don’t breath then I die. If I try to stop breathing I will pass out and my body will breathe automatically. I am not choosing to breathe.
Eating is a requirement. Eating nutritional yeast is optional. You choose to eat it.
You are asking if YEAST is vegan, how am I dense? Veganism is related to ANIMAL products, yeast is not an animal! Just think for two seconds before commenting if you don’t want people to be rude online lmao
Asking if yeast is vegan is as stupid as asking if getting high on shrooms is vegan… like people man cmon…
So having been able to answer my initial question with a simple “no yeast isn’t an animal” you opted to ask me obtuse questions hoping I’d infer the magic knowledge.
Again you are in fact the fucking dense one.
It is a yeast, yeast doesn’t have nerve endings or a brain and therefore can’t feel pain and suffer.
Is jelly fish vegan then?
Mushrooms have complicated communication systems and reproduce sexually, why are they vegan?
Maybe? Idk? I don’t know anything about them therefore I personally wouldn’t hurt them. It’s also kinda weird splitting hairs like this with someone that chooses to send fully conscious beings to slaughter.
No one's forcing you to comply with a specific interpretation of veganism. You can choose your own journey here.
Can’t feel pain and suffer in any way we’re capable of understanding.
Is it a lack central nervousness that makes something vegan?
To me it feels arbitrary, I’m asking because I’m genuinely curious.
are flatworms vegan?
Anyone confused like me: it literally just appears to be animals. If it isn’t technically an animal it is fair game.
The essential oils part of this tells me they likely aren't looking into a vegan diet with a proper nutrient range, or if they are really trying then they're getting their information from a "health" grifter of some sort.
Yes, because it's not obtained through force or exploitation.
Hopefully.
The health of the baby mostly comes down to the health of the mother (yes breast milk is vegan), and I'd wager vegan dieters on average to be more knowledgeable about nutrients than your average person. Being deficient in nutrients at such a young age, especially in the womb, can cause permanent damage. So knowing where the gaps are in what you eat and properly supplementing is important, which doesn't just apply to vegans.
On a vegan diet nutrient toxicities from things like iron and vitamin A are less of a concern as well because of the form they are consumed in, as well as toxicity from minerals that shouldn't be there that become concentrated in herbivores and even more so in predators. Also there is a protective effect to certain foods like soy at a young age, where the reverse is true of say dairy.
The essential oils thing in the meme is concerning though. First of all I would associate that with someone who consumes a vegan diet for mystical reasons, probably one containing mostly or all raw food. On such a diet it can be hard to consume enough food for one individual, and now you have to eat enough for baby as well. The other thing I'd be concerned about is toxicity with the oils, especially if they are poorly tested and contain things that aren't supposed to be present in a significant amount.
Yea, if your parents talk about essential oils you are not getting vaccinated XD Unlucky spawn
Human breast milk is technically the only animal byproduct that could be vegan, since humans can consent to giving it. Well, and legal. You could technically consent to have your entire body consumed; but it wouldn't be legal.
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Isn't it just vitamin B12, which is somewhat of a problem (but which can be easily supplemented and is added to lots of vegan products already)?
At the very least, experts seem to be screaming at humanity to, please, eat their veggies and like tenfold less meat...