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Biden literally signed into law a resolution that took away the ability of railworkers to strike. This is one of the most anti-union and anti-worker moves from the legislative and executive branches I have ever seen in my entire life.
My choice is between that disgusting sack of shit, and an even worse more putrified fascist disgusting sack of shit scumbag pondscum asshole.
I will not be voting for either, and instead will be selecting the candidate available to me on the ticket most closely matching my priorities and convictions. Either way, the electoral college will look at my vote and immediately trash can it to put the true vote to one of these bought and paid for pricks. Happy fucking democracy, what a goddamn joke.
that one was horrible. i think that strike could have sparked another workers rights movement to the likes of the one 100ish years ago.
forget the politicians blame game, they are doing just that right now, despite strikes or lack thereof. all for show, fuck them.
the important part are the worker rights we could have permanently earned, just like our right to the 8hr workday back then.
i dont care if one side gets to get to power over another as long as we have the worker power to bend them to our will. you seem worried about republicans but it ended up being democrat biden who illegalized strikes for an entire industry. this is really bad in the medium to long run.
about having the people agreeing with it, most people supported it, and im doing my part right now in talking to the ones seemingly on the fence.
This precisely. Anyone who is arguing otherwise is being intentionally misleading. Republicans were practically salivating at the opportunity to attack Biden on economic issues.
Maybe there's a reason why leftists hate democracy - because they are too politically naive for it.
Well, thank God we avoided that outcome! As long as the Dems just cater to what Republicans want, we can ensure that Republicans won't resort to baseless accusations.
Your summary is disingenuous. Economic shortages were to be caused by railroad shareholders, not the unions.
biden prevented and even illegalized a movement that could have been just as big or bigger than the labour movement.
the economic impact gets them precisely where it hurts: rich peoples pockets. thats how you really get what you want, not by begging.
the 30hr workweek, or the fairer healthcare us people want so bad? yes, that big.
Biden didn't address the actual concerns. The points system is still in place, the "sick leave" has to be scheduled in advance.
I don't like Biden either, he's done things that offend me too. But it doesn't matter. Assuming Biden or Trump will win the general, then the only rational move is to pick one of them. Your vote can only make the difference between 1st and 2nd. You can't make the 3rd place candidate jump to first, and you certainly can't cause the winner to be nobody.
If you wanna vote for a candidate who matches your priorities and convictions, the time for that is the primary stage. The general is too late for that. In fact, if Trump wins that'll make it even harder for a more liberal candidate to win the next primary, because (as happened after 2016) a Trump victory will scare democratic voters into thinking they need to move to the center to stop the far-right.
I know, American democracy is a big disgusting knot that makes you do things that feel dirty. But just pretend it's a game, because that's what it is. If you wanna win in the end, that means on each turn you move towards the least bad outcome.
Incorrect.
DNC attorneys assert that the party has every right to favor one candidate or another, despite their party rules that state otherwise because, after all, they are a private corporation and they can change their rules if they want
I legitimately can't believe y'all are still doing this. Get new material.
Only when there is better evidence that primaries are fair and relevant.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/bernie-sanders-camp-fix-was-against-clinton-n817501
This is also why a no-name junior senator from Illinois also failed to beat Clinton in the primary, right? Because the DNC decided she should win?
That strawman argument is at the level of "I voted for a pigeon why isn't he president".
We have email evidence in 2016 of a very popular primary candidate (Sanders) being plotted against by an organisation that is supposed to uphold democracy.
A similar occurrence happened in 2020 when Sanders was up against Biden. Stalking horse candidates were used to soak up votes which were then pledged to Biden. He had no support without those votes.
Saying that people have the option to choose a candidate at the primary stage is demonstrably false.
And we have evidence that Sanders lost by 8M votes. Called an election. Move on. Or I guess keep denying the agency of millions of voters because your first baby crush candidate lost.
An excellent example of bias. Thanks!Sanders was 2M votes down when he withdrew, not 8M.
Biden was shown with Buttigieg's, Klobuchar's and bloomberg's delegates, artificially increasing his lead.
Bloomberg didn't meet the criteria to be present on the ballot, but the DNC ignored that because his delegate were earmarked for Biden.
And the media were unable to report without bias and misrepresentation
Excellent example of several meritless conspiracy theories and sour grapes.
Which state ballot do you believe Bloomberg did not qualify for?
Sorry, debate not ballot.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/31/dnc-shifts-debate-requirements-opening-door-for-bloomberg-110017
Fascinating. And Bernie Sanders, he was excluded from the debate by these malevolent forces?
Trying to erect another straw man by inventing a claim?
The point was that the DNC again rewrote it's rules for it's own purposes.
Bro you are the one who literally just invented a claim and rolled it back when you got called out.
As far as the DNC rewriting its rules, surely you know that they significantly reworked the rules from 2016 to 2020 based on feedback from the Sanders campaign, significantly reducing the power of the superdelegates.
I corrected a detail. I rolled back nothing. The DNC bent rules to favor Bloomberg.
The DNC is undemocratic. The primaries are just for show.
Still 16% of the delegates, and they still get added to the DNC choice candidate when reporting caucus results, unfairly swaying opinion.
So again, then how did a no-name junior Senator beat a heavily favored Clinton in the primary, even before they changed the rules (rules everyone knows)?
Admit it, you just don't like the rules because your guy lost.
The rules were ignored bent and broken. That's what I don't like. And that's why the primary is not a legitimate method of getting your choice of candidate elected.
Which no-name senator are you talking about? It can't be Sanders because he raised a record breaking 2.3 million individual donations.
Sanders didn't beat Clinton in the primaries. This was because the DNC were biased. The courts confirmed this and the DNC lawyers had to admit the primaries are rigged. Here's some examples:-
Wikileaks showing supposedly neutral senior party officials tried to undermine Mr Sanders's insurgent left-wing campaign by publicly portraying him as an atheist.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz, chairwoman of the Democratic Party, was found to have sent an email during the primary election saying Mr Sanders "would not be president"
Bernie Sanders said there was "no question" the party establishment had undermined his campaign and clandestinely supported Mrs Clinton for the nomination.
the Sanders campaign claimed the fund "appears to operate in a way that skirts legal limits on federal campaign donations and primarily benefits the Clinton presidential campaign
This is just embarrassing.
Two opportunities and you whiffed both of them.
I am talking about Barack fucking Obama. You clearly have no context or are an outright troll. Either way, stop spreading right wing agitprop.
Oh, I didn't realise there was campaign of dirty tricks against him too. Do we know that Hillary got the debate questions in advance there too? Or is this yet another strawman argument.
You are the troll, dude. Putting up strawmen everywhere. I can't believe you are trying to claim the primary process is fair and just, where the DNC have no influence.
Oh, and the GOP is worse. Their primaries were even more pointless.
The system will not change on the terms of democracy by voting. That's clear as it can be.
It was pretty atrocious how rail workers were prevented from striking, but they did get the sick days they were fighting for a few months later thanks in part to pressure from Biden: https://ibew.org/media-center/Articles/23Daily/2306/230620_IBEWandPaid
He also turned around and got almost everything those rail workers were about to go on strike for in follow-up negotiations
But sure, sacrifice minority lives because an establishment politician was more worried about supply chain snarl than about you getting to cum to all that juicy strike footage that wasn't gonna come out anyways
Don't bother coming to pride this year, we all know you like our aesthetic more than you value our lives.
Maybe if you vote for Biden he'll be unable to continue in office for whatever reason (will leave to your imagination) and then Kamala Harris takes over. She is markedly more left wing than he is, so there is a possibility you'll get an outcome you prefer.
Edit: should clarify that I also don't have a horse in this race since I'm not from the states
This is the narrative that mass media outlets like to tell and retell but I don't know any US leftists that think Kamala Harris is even remotely leftwing. Literally none.
Yes she probably isn't as awful on Israel as Biden is, but that isn't actually saying anything at this point really, Biden is an utter catastrophe on the Palestinian genocide and it very well might lose him the election over it.
But if she becomes president during the next 4 years, she'll be the new incumbent we can't primary.
Ah interesting - I thought she was chosen as vice president to "balance out his ticket" and appeal to the left of the party
She's a cop, there's nothing leftish wing about her
When she was chosen, it felt like a purposeful insult, like there couldn't have been a worse candidate. It felt like an appeal to the right who were mad at the anti-police protesting. We do not like her.
As a woman of color. That was pretty much it. This made Biden appear more progressive to those on the left. Her being a former cop made it more palatable to those on the right side of the party.