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submitted 7 months ago by onlinepersona@programming.dev to c/programmer_humor@programming.dev

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Let's reinvent java bytecode but... different

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[-] taanegl@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

haha java is terrible, mostly because of who owns it.

[-] steventhedev@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

Don't make the mistake of anthropomorphizing Larry Ellison

[-] XTL@sopuli.xyz 4 points 7 months ago

No, Java was always a creeping horror. The VM is one of its less bad features.

Yes it has been steadily getting worse, though.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

less bad

Hum, no. The idea of a fast intermediate representation that is still high-level enough to allow for runtime optimizations and portability is GREAT. It's not "less bad".

But, of course, everything else destroys the language. A language agnostic WASM is taking that one really great part, and dropping everything else.

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev -4 points 7 months ago

Was Java still terrible when Sun owned it?

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[-] taanegl@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Sun Microsystems was once the great hope of the computing world, and technically the JVM was first to normalise the use of VM's, albeit from a containerised perspective. It was Docker before docker, in some sense.

This coupled with Solaris and the SPARC systems that were Java-native (whatever that means) enabled this type of containerisation from a hardware level, which again: was a huge thing.

But, Sun turned for the worse once the JVM hit browsers and server stacks. That's when their SaaS model was envisioned, that was the precursor to the acquisition by Oracle.

So it started nicely, but hit the enshitification velocity somewhere in the early 2000s.