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'Battle plan': How the US far right would dismantle climate programs
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Well, best of luck trying to convince the center right that they should be left instead of starting a leftist party. I don't think the dems should change, I think they are a great right wing party that I wish I didn't have to vote for anymore.
I understand your frustration, but again, that's the nature of a two-party system. Your choice is between center-right and fascism. Adding more parties to the left of fascism just splits the vote and ensures fascist victory. Adding more to the right would be hard, since the Reps are pretty far right already. Though my hope for 2024 is that Trump get snubbed for the Rep nomination and makes his own party out of spite. I'd be pretty happy if that happened.
Getting a party to change its ideology is hard but not impossible. The Reps and Dems switched platforms once already.
Sounds like we are fascists than. Guess we gotta wait for another county to declare war on us and come kill the Republicans who put all the leftists in concentration camps.
I guess you're done pretending to be a leftist. Cool.
I'm not seeing the connection. Historically when people like the Republicans rule a country they eventually have wars they lose to end the regime. We already have political prisoners in super max from twenty years ago. I wonder how long the rest of the world let's us get away with our bs.
And you find that preferable to another four years of Joe Biden?
No? My hope would be we would overthrow the ruling class, but we've never even gotten close to deciding as a nation that 12 people having all of the money is a bad idea. So it all only really matters so much.
But again no, my hope was for a leftist party in America, ranked voting and at least 5 competitive parties trying to attract voters, a removal of jerrymandering, senate votes in some way tied to population size, so whatever insane percent of the population California is, is not represented by 2% of the voting power. I want a lot of things, and on a lot of these the majority of Americans agree. The IRS should send you a bill for the taxes owed like other developed nations, but because of lobbies we can't have that. I want a health care system that makes sense and doesn't have to charge $600 for an Ace bandage. I want and I want and I want. Most Americans do. I want children to not be starving in a nation that screams we are the greatest Earth has ever, or will ever see. We have plenty and we refuse to spread it to those in need. People need to petition the government for years and hire lawyers just to ask for help because they can't work anymore. We continue to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars testing unemployment benefits receivers for drugs ever though almost no one has been caught and kicked off benefits for it. We have legalized slave labor with our prison system hiring out manual laborers for dollars on the hour and paying tge inmates pennies as low as 13 cents an hour. We have legalized child labor still because the agricultural sector has always been exempt from that rule. Our wages are kept as low as possible for the price of goods to still be purchased, slowly pushing more and more people into the lower class. We have more homes with no one living in them than we have homeless people by something like 2.6 times. We regularly refuse ambulance trips when they are required because they are so expensive, there are ways to not pay, but most people who know that can afford to pay it.
If this is a functioning democracy how do you defend it? If this is a developed nation why do we insist on grinding people at the bottom for fuel?
By voting for the party that represents the ruling class' interests and advances its agenda?
That's nice and all, but in a two-party system you can't get any of that. Your choices are limited to the lesser evil and a bunch of fascists who want to turn the two-party system into a one-party system.
Guess it's wait for the war then.
Or you could try to forestall it. Y'know, on the basis that a war is going to be much worse than the flawed rule of the Democrats.
The flawed rule is what leads to the wars.
Does it? Or are you making the same mistake in your thinking as those guys who are terrified that the Dems are coming for their guns tomorrow despite numerous Dem administrations coming and going without anyone making such a move?