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Maybe Logseq, too.
+FOSS like Joplin and unlike Obsidian
+plaintext markdown files like Obsidian and unlike Joplin's janky database
-less feature-rich than obsidian
-block-based instead of note-based, so a slight paradigm-shift is required
Is there a problem with your Lemmy client? My comment renders fine on Raccoon.
Eternity doesn't render that fine and neither do any of the websites and frontends I've tried. It's likely Raccoon in specific renders this as you intended, but it is in the markdown spec — that Lemmy mostly follows — that "strictly" two line breaks are needed to render one line break in HTML.
It isn't very "what you see is what you get"...
I regret I'm probably never escaping Obsidian. For a closed-source piece of software it has such a beautiful ecosystem of themes and plugins. I love to use it for writing my blog articles, and the mostly strict adherence to the markdown spec, the HTML rendering and plugins that add support for Pandoc (and Zotero)...
But by default I can't seem to get Logseq in that space, even if I really want to, where I only organise files based on metadata and folders.
It's not about the files, I'm very happy with files being local and easily synced and messed with. It is as you say, you create a folder which Obsidian reads as a "vault" and create
.md
files and folders in there, plus the hidden folders that let Obsidian organise plugins...But I'm also not exclusively using it on Android, it's my desktop driver for just about everything text. Especially please with the community plugins which make it extremely accessible for someone with additional needs when it comes to reading or writing, the recent improvements to tables and the plugins that integrate it with Pandoc and Zotero.
I was never able to replace what it was with anything except maybe Logseq, and even the Logseq couldn't replace all of the functionality and theming. I tried living a few days in Logseq, just moving my vault there, but it didn't work so well.
It's not a major issue, I would like to move to FOSS but it's not an emergency like moving away from Google is an emergency.
Again, depending on your needs perhaps Logseq is fine. It seems that developers of each app (Logseq and Obsidian namely) have this expectation of how users want to use their apps but in my experience they are both configurable to use Tags, Folders or Links to organise content. This lets you take notes and organise in several ways.
Logseq is FOSS, Obsidian is not and is more popular (thus larger community plugins/themes ecosystem). That's the main difference.
I would love for someone to walk me around what SN can do and walk someone around what Obsidian can do.
My biggest issue with Logsec is the CLA signing. I still use it but don't feel like contributing to it anymore
Oof. I did not know about that. That's unfortunate!
I just wish any of them had a native Android UI instead of a weird, janky mess that is Logseq and iOS clone in Obsidian.
I mean yeah, I get it, and I know the same's the reason behind everyone and their dog using Electron, but in both cases the result is... not great.
Too bad it requires 2GB of RAM. Joplin is "perfect" but the UI is ugly.
I know these apps but none of them is as good as standard notes in my opinion. Notesnook seems fine but I don't like fact that it is based in Pakistan. I used Joplin before buying a sub for standard notes so I know it.
Currently I have also subscription on Crypt.ee for photos but there is also a notes app integrated. Maybe I'll start using it. Developer of cryptee was very active on reddit and he seems like a man who values privacy and security.
But I hope that simply proton will not force the migration of standard notes accounts to proton accounts and for old users everything will be as before.
Idk, maybe I'm wrong. Notesnook is recommended by privacyguides at all. All my mistrust comes from the fact that such countries are not famous for respecting human rights. What if the government forces the owners to give up the keys? Maybe it's an unrealistic scenario cause data is encrypted.
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Yes, you had me cause I write only about keys, but I thought also about backdoors on gov demand.
Notesnook is open source and you can check (if you have the knowledge) if there are any issues. They're working on making the server self-hostable (also fully open source) so there's that.
What's the upside over self-hosted (and encrypted) Trilium, which is what I currently use? (I ask this not as a challenge, but out of curiosity.)
Thanks, appreciate it!