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He just shit the bed so bad.
All he had to do was stay the fuck out of it and say I’m not trump and he would have won by a landslide.
Now we will probably get trump and we deserve it.
Yes I am part of that and no I don’t feel bad about it.
You guys decided you would rather have trump and support genocidal actions and said fuck you to us.
Then you beg for our support while calling us idiots.
Generic you, not natural_motions you
Do you not at all understand why this is a complex issue? Yes he could appease you and a lot of lemmy by denying Isreal aid but he'd upset as many if not more people by doing it, especially when things went real bad and his enemies start saying he hates Jews and backtracked on decades of promises, rolling pictures of dead Israelison the news 24/7
Politics isn't about everyone getting exactly what they want, it's about trying to balance impossible choices and push towards the direction that benefits the most.
Then I don’t want to hear people bitch at us for not getting in lockstep.
You guys decided that the pro genocidal action side is more important.
Stop begging us to work FOR you, when you won’t work WITH us
You've got a binary choice between someone who is trying to limit Israeli brutality but giving support and someone who literally cheered on the brutality, demanded more and offered greater support.
I'm not asking you to work for me, I'm pointing out the reality of the situation
I don’t believe he’s actually trying. I believe he is doing the bare minimum he can try and get elected and that is not good enough for me
Is the same attitude that I’ve gotten every mother fucking presidential election about how now they care but they never fucking do
Of course you choose to belive what suits you, he could go in bare handed and fix the whole thing in a weekend and you'd complain he looked too good doing it.
What is your magic wand solution?
I would bitch he could have done it sooner but it would at least stop my opinion of him going down further, the fact that he chose to do it so late would still hurt him, but at that point he could start rebuilding my opinion of him
Ha of course you would, you want him to be perfect and instant without any consideration for what's actually possible.
So, I say that I am perfectly open to my viewpoint changing and that is your response?
The only one that made him send weapons is him, the only one who can change that right now is him.
I may eventually forgive him what he has done, but I will not forget
You call it a complex issue but have decided that clearly the solution is to say "fuck the Muslims" because otherwise he'll lose the support of genocide-lovers.
It's not the Muslims it's hamas and they would love to kill all the Jews if they could, they try constantly with money from other extremist groups and despotic countries like Iran. If anyone is a genocide lover then its them, and most reasonable people don't want to see them get in a position where they can live out their dreams which is why they support the fight against them.
I'm sick of idiots pretending this is big bad monsters vs sweet innocents who are hard done by because they're Muslim - what is your plan for the hate filled religious zealots desperate to make the whole region even worse than Afghanistan? Just let them win? Just shrug when they complete their river to the sea genocide and focus their oppression on the Palestinian people because their lives are objectively worse but at least the jews are dead?
You don't care about the people you care about ideological purity and finding an excuse to hate
How many of the 30,000+ killed so far do you think are hamas?