As Palestine applies for full UN membership, what’s in the way? (www.aljazeera.com)

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Approval requires at least nine votes in favour, with no vetoes. The UNSC’s five permanent members – the US, Russia, China, France and Britain – hold vetoes.

But the US has indicated that its opposition to Palestinian member status in the UN, in the absence of a broader deal with Israel, stays intact.

“Our position has not changed,” Robert Wood, US deputy ambassador to the UN, said last week.

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[-] _tezz@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Can you link me some reading material about this?

we literally suffered 9/11 because of Israel

I've never once heard Israel come up in the story of 9/11

[-] sepulcher@lemmy.ca 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Sure! Here is Osama Bin Laden's letter "To the American People."

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ubl2016/english/To%20the%20American%20people.pdf

"As for us, our Iraq was invaded in response to pressure from capitalists with greed for black gold, and you continue to support the oppressive Israelis in their occupation of our Palestine in response to pressures on your administration by a Jewish lobby backed by enormous financial capabilities."

"They threw hundreds of thousands of soldiers against us and have formed an alliance with the Israelis to oppress us and occupy our land; that was the reason for our response on the eleventh."

It's sad how in 2024, Americans still don't know about this. He made it very clear with no room for ambiguity.

It went viral on tiktok awhile ago, then they started censoring anyone who shared it. I'm not saying jews control the media, but it's clear that those who oppose Zionism are faced with censorship and ostracization, especially in the business-world.

The facts just don't lie, unfortunately.

[-] edwardthefma99@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Pointing out a fact not all Jews are Zionists they don't control anything if they did we all would allredy be prepared for the journey to the promised land Jews and gentile

[-] sepulcher@lemmy.ca 0 points 7 months ago

Absolutely. We've all heard the "jews control the media" rhetoric from 4chan.

I'm pointing out that there is definitely some truth to Zionists controlling the media, as we see everyday with people losing jobs and facing censorship for support of Palestine.

I think it's in the best interests of Jews to distance themselves from Zionists as much as possible.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I think it’s in the best interests of Jews to distance themselves from Zionists as much as possible.

Yes but do you condemn Hamas? Maybe, to save on breath, Jews should all just walk around with crossed-out David's stars? Or maybe instead of blue/white ones plain yellow ones to make the difference clear?

...I know I'm being overly aggressive right now but this "Whole ethnicity should condemn bad actors they have nothing to do with" shit is utterly unproductive and insulting. I mean there's some validity in e.g. asking Americans to condemn Trump, at least they can vote for him or not. Or to ask American Jews to comment on AIPAC. The majority of Jews are not Israelis, they have no say in what Israel is up to. It's like asking Harry from Newcastle in, in a pub in Newcastle, whether he condemns Trump, after all, he's Anglophone surely there must be a connection. Consider for example that all those bankers speak English...

[-] sepulcher@lemmy.ca 0 points 7 months ago

Why would I condemn Hamas? They're not doing anything that Israel hasn't already done to them first.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago

Oh boy. For one, they're fascists oppressing Palestinians. For two, they're the Palestinian version of the Kahanites keeping the conflict boiling.

Hamas is not the PLO and unless you're an ass-backwards Islamist, they're definitely not on your side.

[-] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 months ago

So you want Palestinians to be completely un armed and surrender like how Germans did with jews? I believe germany did not do a good job re educating.

[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

Yes, Bin Ladin hated Jews and the state of Israel.

Jews or Israel are not responsible for his actions.

To everybody reading this who may consider agreeing, may I just ask how large of a leap it is to go from being explicitly pro-terrorist to becoming a terrorist? In my mind, it's maybe not a leap.

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