188
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 15 Apr 2024
188 points (97.0% liked)
News
22890 readers
6490 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Cool, sounds good.
Your guns have done absolutely nothing to bring police reform. Can you name even a single person in the last 20 years who has shot their way out of a confrontation with "batshit crazy police"?
It's a marketing strategy to sell guns to people who don't trust the police, not an actual solution to the problem. In fact, pull that gun on a cop that wants to kill you and they'll be thrilled that your murder won't even be investigated.
No miracles needed, just policy that has worked the world over and enough time for it to become effective.
It's funny though, despite you being such an ally of gun control, I've never seen you among the pro-gun crowd accusing their solution of being "delusional" or a "miracle cure" when they've claimed "we just need to elimate poverty and permanently and completely cure every man, woman and child of mental illnesses, even the ones that don't want treatment, so its safe to sell them guns".
Oh well, I'm sure you'll get your chance after the next mass shooting.
"Policy that has worked the world over" conveniently ignoring that the countries you're obliquely referring to are not the ones without guns, but the ones with meaningful social mobility and instead you're pretending that the stronger correlation is guns. Across time and space, low social mobility among young men, specifically, correlates with rates of violence. But instead of trying to actually address the difficult issue here you're just going to click those pretty little red shoes together three times and wish for a single policy that solves this extremely complex problem. Just unbelievably childish and naïve. Nothing but virtue signaling, hollier than thou bullshit.
Very few countries have no guns and presenting gun control this way makes it clear that your information about gun control comes from pro-gun groups.
This changes nothing. You're just admitting that the current gun laws in America are inadequate for current state of society.
This only holds up if I do only support a single policy. Feel free to name any progressive policy aimed at addressing wealth inequality or access to healthcare and I'll openly state I support it.
But the pro-gun community is a cult that insists the current gun laws are a sacred text that must never be changed (except to make worse). At best you're saying "we should address every factor except one".
Your solution is "we should just not have criminals any more" so you're not in any position to call someone childish and naive. The closest it ever comes to reality is "we should reduce crime to a point where gun violence can be swept under the rug".
That would still make me a better person than a colossally self-absorbed gun owner insisting we sacrifice our lives and build them a utopia beyond what the world has ever seen, all so they're not inconvenienced buying a gun for their hobby.