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Such immature insults with unsavoury implicit messages. There are plenty of legitimate reasons to hate conservatism. Implicitly calling all conservatives (you can never extrapolate anything besides the thing that binds them to a large group) either teenagers or ephebophiles (it's not clear which, although I suppose teenagers are usually ephebophiles anyway), is obviously untrue, and also wouldn't be an insult if it was, since ageism doesn't make good insults, and neither is calling someone an ephebophile, since it means nothing as long as they don't act on any illegal impulses.
Not sure if butthurt pedo or conservative but the unironic use of the word ephebophile is a great hint.
yeah that part definetly made me raise an eyebrow
Well, I didn't think the post was implying pedophile, is all. But maybe you thought it was, I guess it's up to one own's interpretation.
And by the way, I myself am neither a conservative nor a pedophile, but I don't like the way the internet has demonized even celibate pedophiles.
i'm not sure either, but either way, a hurt dog will holler ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You ok?
Have you ever looked at the name of this community?
And the sidebar?
I love how you get downvoted for stating the obvious. Oh someone does not like tattoos and/or piercings? That person must be the devil himself! Absurd. Focus on actual arguments instead of such nonsense.
Imagine reading a joke/meme and feeling personally called out by it.
A person reveals his character by nothing so clearly as the joke he resents.
~Georg C. Lichtenberg
(Who also liked his women on the younger side, come to think of it, although at least he waited until she was 16 to marry her. Wonder if he would have found this unfunny too.)
It's a joke as much as promoting hateful stereotypes is a joke
Wow, imagine thinking it's bad to hate terrible disgusting people that make the world a worse place for everyone... What kind of sheltered ignorance does someone need for that?
Hateful stereotypes aren't a problem when the hate is rational.
Hate is more bad for yourself than that it stops anyone else doing or being the things you're hating on
The most oppressed class: conservatives.
Conservatives are much more hateful than any stereotype
Does that mean you should be too?
I should be what? A conservative? No, thank you, I live in reality and I'm not scared of made-up culture war bullshit
No, hateful. Just because someone else does something stupid doesn't mean you should
Oh, yeah, you should be hateful of intolerance. If you aren't, you're hurting those who are getting hatecrimed by conservatives
Why are you generalizing a political movement?
How am I generalizing, beyond pointing out the defining cause behind the movement?
This is not a general thing amongst conservatives, that would be ridiculous
Yeah, modern conservatives are ridiculous. Haven't you heard?
I've seen strong polarization in politics, and people demonizing their opponents. Thinking the majority falls in that extreme spectrum is a ridiculous notion imo
Well... if a conservative:
Is this person still a conservative?
That is a long list, perhaps there's nuance here? Someone can support some of those and not others, and still mostly lean into a particular political direction
Yeah. There's a lot of things that conservatives hate, that's what I was saying since the beginning. And I didn't even mention the hate of non-christians, for example, or for socialists.
And if you support some things but not the others, you're still supporting policies based on hate, so my point stands
Some people support things based on hate, but unless you can read minds you can't generalize that. And also not all conservatives are christians
Can you give me one singular reason to oppose gay marriage that isn't based on hate?
The meme is about conservatives not liking tattoos, are just just adding this gay-hating claim to justify your hate for them?
Ok, so you do admit that opposition to gay marriage is based on hate. Good.
And the discussion was about the fact that the vast majority of conservative policies are dictated by fear. Have you forgotten?
No, I did not, I can't read minds unfortunately. And no, we're in a comment thread about a meme.
Ah yes the sensitive conservative with a persecution complex stereotype....