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I get the feeling they're trying to avoid martyrdom. He needs to go to prison for the big things, not on technicalities.
I don't know, witness intimidation is pretty damn big. And a pretty damn big admission of guilt.
The thing is, he wouldn't do it openly. He'd pass the names to an assistant who would make some anonymous posts online and let it go from there. Sure, maybe that can be proven in another trial, but that's too far away to help the witnesses or to avoid slowing this case
You're talking about the guy who just says whatever the hell is on his mind at the time.
He is too stupid to keep his mouth shut. The problem is the courts are too cowardly to enforce their own gag orders.
"Please stop tweeting about the clerks and family members of the court." [He immediately tweets about the clerks and family members.] "Oh, ok, please have a 10 day extension and we'll give you a far lesser bond."
Once you put it like that, it's just laughable how much they've pampered this asshole. And he still. Fucking. Complains.
The entire right wing and Christian movements in the US seems to be based on nothing on persecution syndrome. It's just moaning about how oppressed they are day in an day out.
...where have you been for the past 7 years plus change?
He does MOST of his crimes openly and the rest he publicly brags about later!
There's literally NO way he'd ever try to make his witness tampering discreet. That would be like expecting Guy Fieri to cook without ketchup 😛
People only need to go to jail or prison for crimes. Witness intimidation is a crime.
The thing is where will you house the orange asshole's Secret Service detail in a prison?
That's gotta be a huge drawback for any judge to send him to prison during a trial.
Insurrectionists don't deserve secret service protection.
If a U.S. President Goes to Prison, Does the Secret Service Go, Too?
*** There are multiple links in the article that I haven't transferred here.
Personally I think that any former president who winds up incarcerated should have to serve their time in the military side of Leavenworth, but that’s just me. The Secret Service would have a much easier time integrating into a system run by MPs than civilian prison guards.
There's got to be a spare supply closet somewhere: use that. and make sure they don't use Epstein-brand video cameras.
"Don't deserve" is a completely different thing that "Won't get" which seems important to point out because your response is about the latter.
I copied portions of an article. I wasn't personally choosing deserve or get.
Then why did you choose those specific quotes as a response to my statement about not deserving?
Because the federal rules were in it. Deserving or undeserving has little to do with it then.
Is that something for a judge to take into consideration though, or for a warden?
They sit outside the cell, obviously.
Why would he need a secret service detail? He has prison guards.
So did Epstein and they didn't save him.
I think many consider witness intimidation to be a big thing. Threatening judges/advocates/... is big, doxing their families as a form of intimidation goes beyond even that. They should have never let them (not just Trump, but also others who were making threats or encouraging others to make threats) get away with it.
That it gets a pass as "not bad enough" is indicative of how far the USA civil society has fallen.
He needs to not be treated like a fucking king because he isn't one. Presidents are just people who happen to be elected, and shouldn't get treated like royalty.
Worrying about making him a martyr is counterproductive.
Some of them not even that, such as himself and first term Dubya.
He is already claiming to be a martyr since being charged for all the civil and criminal indictments