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My next car will be whatever used car I think will get me through 4 more years. Maybe the one after that will be electric. But until people can walk onto a lot and drive away in an EV, or, especially, find one on Kijiji, then the number of people whose next car is an EV is going to remain low.
The fact that the number of people considering it right now is anywhere near 50% is a big deal.
TBF, I was watching a YouTube video yesterday where he mentionned that there's actually a decent used EV market now. We bought a used car ˜10 months ago, and EVs were out of the question with autotrader listings in Ontario starting at ˜$40K for any EV in good driving condition. Now you can find some all the way down to ˜$20K.
Still that's like 3-4 times most people's budgets for cars, if they even have a budget.
There are very few used cars for <$7,500 that aren't "As-Is" or should be labelled as such. I know the used ICE market has also softened a bit, but not that much.
When we were looking, I was considering a beater since our last car was a '05 Civic I bought with 120K km from a used car dealer for $5K (plus snow tires & rims). Before it was totaled, with an extra 180K km and over a decade of wear, it was worth more than that. EV prices are insane, but ALL car prices are insane.
Oh 100%, I'm just saying people struggle to even afford ICE used cars, let alone EV ones, that prices are just insane. 20k is like 5 months of rent for a family.
That's gotta be regionally specific, because there are no full electrics, used or otherwise, around here for under $30k.
I just search autotrader for all of Ontario. You can find even cheaper ones below $10K, but they're old models and probably have very limited range. However, as a second vehicle for around town trips (with daily at home charging), they'd be a pretty good option.
I'm going to stop you right fucking there.
Fucking Ontarians thinking they're the whole fucking country again.
Let me guess, when someone tells you their stove has stopped working, you counter with "mine works fine", don't you?
Whoa. Why are you being so aggressive?
I stated in my first comment that I'd searched in Ontario, so I was just clarifying that my search was province-wide. I found those prices all over the province, so I don't think it's "regionally specific." (unless you were trying to convey regions of Canada?)
I don't know where you're from, and couldn't guess it from a quick search of your comment history.
EDIT: I'm not trying to say, "Toronto is the centre of the universe," or anything like that. I'm just trying to give context to my statements.
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That's the main reason my current car isn't an EV.
When my previous car got written off by insurance, I needed a replacement ASAP, and wasn't in a position to wait 12-48 weeks to order one that I couldn't even test drive before putting my money down.
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And yes, transit, bla bla... they won't let me take my toolboxes and ladder on the bus - even if it went where I need to go.