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A top Hamas political official told The Associated Press the Islamic militant group is willing to agree to a truce of five years or more with Israel and that it would lay down its weapons and convert into a political party if an independent Palestinian state is established along pre-1967 borders.

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[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Hamas has lied about peace and democracy in the past. They became the state of Palestine by winning an election in which they promised to stop attacks on civilians and be democratic, then refusing to hold an election for 2 decades.

Israel is a genocidal regime and needs to be stopped. But that doesn't make Hamas the good guys. A long-term solution can't include the current governments of either Israel or Palestine.

[-] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Hamas won an election in 2007, which no other country accepted the results of. Israel responded with a blockade. Not saying they're the good guys but it's not like it's a level playing field.

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

What! They "won" an election that nobody outside HAMAS found legitimate??? And then the country they promise to exterminate reacted? No way!?!?!?!?

[-] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Don't let facts get in your way:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_election

International observers noted that the elections, for the most part, were conducted fairly and in accordance with international standards.

There were some reports of voter obstruction - caused by Israel.

[-] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Yes also don’t forget that Fatah immediately led a coup against them, with public support and arms from Israel and support from US.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Quite a long term they have, 17 years and counting.

[-] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I thought we don't accept the results of the election?

Immediately after the election, Fatah, with US and Israeli support dismissed the Hamas government, which Hamas obviously disagreed with.

At this point there's a stalemate where we (the West) and Fatah don't recognize the Hamas government and Hamas can't call an election because they have not officially governed.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Nothing is stopping them from holding another election. There's clearly a desire for one, since Hamas has violently quelled dissent in the past.

The fact of the matter is that Hamas is looking out for Hamas, and that they haven't held elections in 14 years heavily underscores that.

To be absolutely clear, Israel is still the greater evil here. But that doesn't mean that Hamas isn't an authoritarian dictatorship either.

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