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submitted 7 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Maryam Alwan figured the worst was over after New York City police in riot gear arrested her and other protesters on the Columbia University campus, loaded them onto buses and held them in custody for hours.

But the next evening, the college junior received an email from the university. Alwan and other students were being suspended after their arrests at the “ Gaza Solidarity Encampment,” a tactic colleges across the country have deployed to calm growing campus protests against the Israel-Hamas war.

The students’ plight has become a central part of protests, with students and a growing number of faculty demanding their amnesty. At issue is whether universities and law enforcement will clear the charges and withhold other consequences, or whether the suspensions and legal records will follow students into their adult lives.

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[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 8 points 7 months ago

Wow, you're a pedantic one.

Is jailed actually jailed, or does book and release count?

It you're put in a jail, you've been jailed. Note: jail, not prison.

What is your definition of protest here?

What? I have never heard anyone need this defined for them. Look it up yourself.

There are many things that have to be defined before you can try to pay you’re little word game there.

You listed two thing, both well defined. I need you to define the word "defined," "before," and "word game" please. I can't understand your comment.

[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth -5 points 6 months ago

My point is that what one person considers a peaceful protest, another can not.

If it’s a 99% peaceful protest does it still count.

For the record I understand your point to a point, but yes some people do deserve to be jailed for protesting genocide.

Just like the people who think anortion is basically baby genocide and fire bomb abortion clinics deserve to go to jail

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 months ago

Yeah, you didn't say "peaceful" but also I've seen no evidence of violence from students in these protests. That said, I haven't really kept up with it. Maybe there's an instance of violence, but you can use collective punishment to hold them all accountable for that. If you do then no protest is allowed. I haven't seen anyone defend anyone using violence. You're bringing that up as a strawman.

[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth -4 points 6 months ago

I feel like peaceful is the difference between protesting and rioting

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It isn't, but I'll take the bait anyway. Where were these students not peaceful? I haven't seen it yet.

Just FYI, MLK Jr, the person most known for "peaceful protest" today in the US, was said to have been starting riots by much of the mainstream media. It's easy to say people are rioting to make people disagree with them, especially if you use violence against them and accuse them of being violent now.

[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth -3 points 6 months ago

I never said there were.

You said is if it just to be jailed for protesting genocide.

Yes there are

[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth -4 points 6 months ago

You asked if it is just to be jailed for protesting genocide.

I said yes, you didn’t ask is it right for these students to be jailed.

People like to use questions that are extremely vague in conjunction with subjects that are related, but not as strongly as the questioned asked.

That is bullshit wordgamery and I will call it out

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 months ago

You asked if it is just to be jailed for protesting genocide.

I said yes, you didn’t ask is it right for these students to be jailed.

How is it ever just to be jailed for protesting genocide. Maybe it is while sometimes, if you do something illegal in conjunction with it. The act itself isn't illegal though, so getting arrested for it is unjust.

[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth -2 points 6 months ago

Like I said, what I consider a protest, others might not.

So yeah, it depends on your definitions

[-] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Such transparent dogshit on display here xD you insist that they define basic words like "jailed" and "peaceful" and "protest" , and accuse them of "wordgamery" bc you can't understand the basic English words they're saying. Just letting you know nobody is falling for this, you're just making yourself look stupid by acting like others' words are utterly incomprehensible when it's obviously not :3

[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth -5 points 6 months ago

“At what point does a legal protest become an illegal one?” would I guess be a better way to say it

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