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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by Vitaly@feddit.uk to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

Even from people that never lived in a communist state

edit: im 17 and i hate communism

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Why do you hate communism?

Nobody has ever actually done real communism on a national scale. The closest is probably the USSR, but that was a disaster because it was an authoritarian dictatorship that funneled money and power to the top. People only got token representation, the people were not actually in charge of anything, they got no real say in their leadership. Doesn’t matter that it was structured like communism says it should be, the reality of it was anything but communism.

Real communism would probably be pretty decent. There wouldn’t be too much to hate about it other than what you’d dislike in any government.

The problem is the humans running it. It’s a constant battle against power-hungry and self-serving people being in charge, just like any government, and no nation espousing communism has ever managed to prevent authoritarianism and basic kleptocratic people from settling in and running the show.

  • I am not for communism or here to espouse any virtues it might have. The concept of communism certainly has appeal and presents many benefits, however the reality of implementation and human nature virtually guarantee it will never achieve its intended form.
[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Real communism will never work for the same reason a completely free market would never work.

Too many people are greedy and selfish.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

That’s pretty much what I just said? Except you mentioned free market…

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

People are shaped by their environment, people seem greedy and selfish because of Capitalism. Primitive communism existed for thousands of years, and people were cooperative and communal.

Why do you believe selfish and greedy people existing in Communism would strain or ruin it?

[-] Fal@yiffit.net 1 points 6 months ago

Primitive communism existed for thousands of years

This is fundamentally flawed. You can't compare primitive societies to modern states. The reason communism worked in primitive societies is the same reason communism works in families. It's not something that can just be expanded to thousands of millions of people who don't know each other

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