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Well who showed up to a protest with just their own weak spindly body against a fully armored roided out line backer with decades of counter protest maneuvers and training.
The clownvoy were fucked but they managed to build a pretty good playbook for how to protest. Show up in a way that overwhelms the authorities and has no chapter in their playbook. I remember cities scrambling because they knew there just wasn't enough tow trucks in the city to do anything and most tow truck drivers were siding with the convoy.
Modern protesters are unappealing to most people to the point that every single person with a job would prefer to the be the boot and that's just PR. I've seen so many protests where I agreed with the cause but hated seeing the protests because they just set things back, never forward anymore.
Sorry... you're blaming police violence on the nonviolent protesters?
Sure, I'm blaming protestors for not being effective. And not specific to any particular event. In general most protests I see in my life have been useless and theatrics. Telling people to just show up and hope for the best in my mind is immoral, unethical and should discussed more.
Dunking on protestors "not being effective" is just the worse. It might be useless to you, but to many it is a useful launching point of some meaningful discussions.
The worst is seeing important causes lose traction and ground others fought for because some group decides they want to take action without properly being prepared and organized.
Just because you're not prepared to talk about the protests in a way that gives traction to the issue doesn't make the protestors wrong.
What do you mean by not prepared to talk in a way that gives traction to the issue?
That these type of events are inevitable and one can prepare and organize to respond with solidarity that shapes the message in the way you think would be beneficial.
They're not inevitable and the ask would be that if you do something do it right. If people decide they will get to this point that they take greater care in representing the issue as they have now elected themselves as the face of it.
Going back to the fuck cars group. Most people know deflating tires is wrong and will make people angry. Going out and doing it for attention and saying its for climate change harms how serious other people perceive the issue. But my options are not be a coward or go out and show solidarity by shaping this message while I deflate tires. Its being responsible enough to know I don't have the ability to drive positive change publicly and so I find other ways.