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[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 205 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yes and in 2019 Musk's claims went even further, when he claimed it was stupid to buy anything but Tesla, because next year (2020) You would be able to make money on it as a RoboTaxi. As I recall it was $200,000.- you should be able to make on a Tesla per year!!! Why he sold them then is a bit strange?
He also claimed that instead of losing value, a Tesla would increase as much as five times in value in a year, because FSD was worth that much.

How this man hasn't been jailed for fraud years ago is beyond me, I could understand if USA was a corrupt country for the rich...
oh... Never mind.

[-] MxM111@kbin.social 39 points 6 months ago

I think he truly believed all that. He did not lie, he was wrong about the future. Or at least that would be his legal defense.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 66 points 6 months ago

Except he claimed Tesla had the technology working NOW in 2019. Which is a factually false statement not about beliefs.

[-] MxM111@kbin.social 13 points 6 months ago

And that would is probably one of the indicators of why lawsuit is allowed to proceed and might be won in the end.

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Yeah. He explicitly stated that the only thing stopping them flipping the switch were those damn pesky road laws

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Which I'm sure was true. It would certainly be a lot faster to debug FSD after a number of deaths for each bug.

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Forget Tesla dude! Trust me I'm from the year 2024. In just a few months your world will change drastically and everyone will start getting 😷 sick and wearing a mask. We called it COVID 19 and it was bad. Real bad. The only way to fight this pandemic was to isolate as much as possible until a vaccine was made available. The markets never crashed like Trump suggested.... almost as if he knew something was happening....you must invest all your money on moderna and Pfizer vaccine related stocks. Anyway, that's all I remember. Paxlovid was okay but not a vaccine. Wow, Lemmy let's you time travel! We need to invest into this technology!

[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 3 points 6 months ago

depends how you define "working" i suppose.

can a tesla drive its full range automomously? probably...

should it? probably not

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Musk defined it himself, as the car being able to drive autonomously from a parking lot across the country to pick you up in another parking lot.

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[-] m13@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

There are plenty of bosses like him out there. Completely high on their own shit. He reads about technology in a sci-fi book, and thinks he can Steve Jobs into bullying workers into making it a reality. Completely deludes himself into thinking it’s real and sells it to investors with full confidence. He has no idea of the actual technical challenges and fully convinces himself his genius brain could figure it out if he wasn’t so “busy” all the time. Everything is perpetually just 6 months away.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

The worst part is that he doesn't even understand the sci-fi he consumes. He said this not too long ago:

Grok is an AI modeled after The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, so intended to answer almost anything and, far harder, even suggest what questions to ask!

Every AI in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy was broken, an asshole or both. Douglas Adams clearly thought the idea of a "human-like" AI was abhorrent. Especially one developed by a giant corporation.

Also, he thinks the name of the main character in Blade Runner is "Bladerunner."

https://futurism.com/the-byte/elon-musk-main-character-blade-runner

[-] pr06lefs@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

And the word grok comes from stranger in a strange land, not hitchhikers guide.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

True, and since part of the meaning of grok in the book was 'to love,' naming your "anti-woke" AI after that suggests he also didn't understand that book.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Every AI in the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy was broken,

Wow, I'm a huge fan of Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy, and I never really thought of that, but you are 100% right.
Wonderful comment thanks. 👍 😀

[-] ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

I don't think he meant an AI from the book, I think he meant the actual Hitchhiker's Guide. The one that says don't panic on the cover

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Which, again, was incredibly corrupt and run by a soulless corporation that didn't actually care about the truth.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Funny how rich people can get away with that. I could say I fully believe I’m going to win $50 million in the lottery next week, buy a bunch of shit I can’t pay for, and probably wind up jailed pretty shortly thereafter and nobody would bat an eye. Rich guy selling vaporware? No problem, he just believed his own hype train. Sorry, investors.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

He's claimed before that he honestly believes it each year by watching the progress the past X months, but suddenly all progress stops as their method hits a plateau. So they keep changing methods.

It's probably an honest mistake the first time or two, but he's done this every year since and has no credibility anymore.

After being wrong by a year or two, he should have explained what was going in, and shut up about it, with a simple I don't know when it'll be ready but you should see forward progress each year.

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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 months ago

I really believed that...

Uh-huh... There is a long, LONG list of bullshit that he believed, and continues to believe. There comes a point where we either have to accept that he has the mental level of a 5 year old believing in Santa Claus, or that he is a narcissistic compulsive liar.

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 15 points 6 months ago

Now watch as Musk faces "consequences(TM)".

Why, he might have to pay a fine of a full hour's worth of profits that resulted from his actions!?

[-] TurdMongler@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago
[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

Yes with Starlink which the military threatened they might nationalize if Musk sabotaged Ukraine access again.
I honestly don't think Musk's value as a military contractor is very high, and probably (hopefully) not enough to protect him from criminal liability.

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