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How can we be sure that China isn't "turning imperialist"? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 2 years ago by 3lava3@lemmygrad.ml to c/genzhou@lemmygrad.ml

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Asking in good faith. Right now China is an emmerging power. It is clearly the better alternative for e.g. African countries right now and is certainly an adventageous power for these countries. China is not doing this out of the goodness of their hearts though. They take the opportunity because it is also a win for them. But what happens once the world power dynamic shifts from the US block towards China? Is China not going to turn into a destructive imperialist country? Even if countries like Russia and China aren't imperialist at the moment, they certainly might be in the future if they are more powerful? So does it make sense to unconditionally support them today?

I am asking this because I have heard this argument about China before and I would love to hear you guys debunk it.

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[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I'll start from the bottom and work my way up.

We don't unconditionally support Russia and China, we critically support them.

If they become imperialist in the future, we'll deal with it then.

China has no plans, nor the necessary superstructure or class relations to be imperialist.

The world is shifting to multipolarity, not Chinese unipolarity. Even so, geopolitical power is not immediately imperialism.

China is investing in projects around the world for multiple reasons, and yes some are out of self interest. That doesn't make the projects invalid in their use as local economic drivers, means to increase living standards, means to increase the power of the global proletariat, means to help countries develop in the way they themselves want to develop.