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Disgusting victim blaming.
So you read the part where they did NOT call police, but for mental health help, and clinicians came but the police came too. And yet you blame the parents?
I think you have a problem.
The clinicians called the police.
If defending the parents of a poor soul that was murdered by police is virtue signaling, so be it.
He was an adult not a child.
Emergency services should also include mental heath crisis teams.
They do!
That’s even more tragic.
Eh? Is it really just normal over there to assume the police is this incompetent and are basically just hitman on call? Because this is not at all what I would expect when I call the cops. Blaming the parents, that's just massive victim blaming...
The parents knew for years how bad things have gotten, wasn't there a shred of a thought in their shallow brains that could've told them that if they called the cops that it'd escalate to this? No?
But the parents did not call the cops, they called the department of health mental health services who must have called the police for assistance.
The Parents Didn't Call The Cops.
Read the gd article already.
Well maybe, but I still don't think you should assume of cops they react this way. They should have been trained in deescalation.. Not shoot at the first sign of a threat. Also I think you should turn the blame around. The cops knew what they were called in for, so should have entered with more care.
If one threatens others with death or serious bodily harm, they should expect lethal force as a response. You are not the victim when you are threatening the lives of innocents.
Jesus no! You don't deal with mental health patients this way! You should have started a dialogue and keep him occupied until he calms down and possibly comes out himself. And if he doesn't you break down the door, step back and reevaluate the situation. Not just barge in and shoot him.
The cops "we need go shoot this guy before he harms and kills himself" probably
Why the fuck are you commenting on articles you don't bother to read?!
I agree with your first statement, police are not therapists. They are not trained for this. They are basically a "sledge hammer" and everything is a "nail" per their training.
But, blambing the parents for calling for help should not be something that should be stigmatised in this way. Sure, maybe calling the police may not have been the best option, but the system is really failing us in general when people ask for help.
Calling a help line should really direct you to more appropriate service. Though this may not exist.
Edit: thanks for everyone that read the article (doing the lords work). The parents called a help line and the help line forwarded it to the police. So the systems for help failed the people they are designed to help in a way.
Also no need to downvote snownyte so badly guys!
The parents didn't call the cops.
Very interesting, this even more so highlights how the system is somewhat failing or overburden in a way.
Even calling for assistance or help down the right channels can lead you down some unwanted or unseen directions.
I suppose that this same reason is why homelessness is as big of a issue, people don't ask for help because it usually ends up being more of a burden then the situation they may already be in.
There’s no problem with someone equipped to handle violent situations being present.
The problem is if they unnecessarily escalate and get involved instead of standing by.
The solution is to dismantle the entire police system and rebuild from scratch with accountability and training.
We just need to vote for the Democrats one more time and they’ll finally do something about it right? That’s what all the funny memes here tell me. The democrats that are literally sponsored by police unions and advertise that fact endlessly.
You're just a truly awful person, aren't you?
Man I love when people show they need blocked right from the get go.
Thank you waste of breath, go apologize to a tree
Mods, whack his pp
Wow what a fucking temper tantrum. Impressive.