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[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 59 points 5 months ago

This is unilaterally discrediting our country on the world stage. Trump was bad enough, but we could tell the world over half the county opposed him, and that he lost the popular vote.

This guy won the popular vote, and he's out there supporting genocide. What a fucking embarrassment to humanity these "leaders" are. Fuck them both.

Obligatory yes, I will be voting for Biden again to fend off Trump. I'll like it even less than I did last time, though.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 9 points 5 months ago

You are absolutely not obligated to say who you will be voting for.

If anything you've undercut your 'fuck them both' by following it with 'but of course I will be supporting THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY'.

Do what you want at the voting booth but don't undercut your own message by announcing your hand.

[-] BallotOrTheBullet@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Buddy, our country is not so great on the world stage. You honestly think we can sink lower?

We've been down this road so many times and it's always a kick in the pants when we get hung up on it again and again. To properly take a moral stance you need to gain momentum before the primaries. Biden has not been shy about his stance on Isreal and bibi has been chasing this car like a dog on crack.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Buddy, our country is not so great on the world stage. You honestly think we can sink lower?

Oh, absolutely.

[-] BallotOrTheBullet@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago

We're talking world stage. Trump wins, we will just learn what everyone else already knows.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Oh, I'm talking about the world stage too. The US remains popular in much of Subsaharan Africa and East Asia (minus China and NK, natch), and moderately popular in Asia outside of MENA, with mixed views in Latin America. Our popularity dropped in all but three countries during Trump's term, if memory serves - Pakistan, Israel, and Russia.

[-] BallotOrTheBullet@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago
[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

No, and I can provide data if you're interested.

[-] BallotOrTheBullet@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Just seems kinda insignificant if we can't even stand with our peers in the west.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

We're more popular in most of those countries than most European countries are - a lot of bad blood in colonialism there.

Western Euro countries approval of the US tend to vary wildly according to recent events, while Eastern Europe outside of the Russian sphere tends to approve highly of the US despite a significant gap on social issues.

this post was submitted on 22 May 2024
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