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submitted 5 months ago by hedge@beehaw.org to c/technology@beehaw.org

Was wondering what the hell was going on this morning.

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[-] samc@feddit.uk 43 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I always thought that people using searx etc over duckduckgo were just gluttons for punishment. Having gone an entire morning without search, maybe now is the time to dive down that rabbit hole...

[-] hedge@beehaw.org 30 points 5 months ago

Seems like most search engines these days are primarily Google-based or Bing-based. Mojeek has its own crawler, I think...

[-] brie@beehaw.org 23 points 5 months ago

Alexandria and Stract use their own open source crawlers. Brave is also independent, if I recall correctly.

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 11 points 5 months ago

Brave does have an option to use anonymous Google results as a fallback if their index doesn't return enough results, but it will ask you before it does it.

[-] Mojeek@lemmy.ml 20 points 5 months ago

This is correct, we are independent and have been since all the way back in 2004, 8bn-page index and growing 😀

[-] Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I just read your profile and can't believe you guys have been on lemmy for 3 years. What made you guys join before lemmy got popular?

~Anti~ ~Commercial-AI~ ~license~ ~(CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0)~

[-] Mojeek@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

people interested in alternative search tend to be in spaces that aren't your GAFAM big tech networks, we've been on masto since 2018 also

not to come off as overly dismissive of people elsewhere, but you also find that the quality of discourse and people's willingness to think about things are both considerably more elevated

[-] hedge@beehaw.org 4 points 5 months ago
[-] readbeanicecream@kbin.earth 3 points 5 months ago

Nice! Mojeek looks great. Thanks for the tip!

[-] doxxx@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

Kagi.com has its own I believe. But you have to pay a subscription to use it.

[-] Mindless_Enigma@beehaw.org 6 points 5 months ago

My understanding is that Kagi relies on the likes of Bing and Google but since it uses more than one of them it can keep functioning if one goes down.

[-] doxxx@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

TIL. I thought they had their own crawler. I’m a little disappointed.

[-] darreninthenet@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 months ago

They do both, their own index focuses on the "small web", more info here:

https://help.kagi.com/kagi/search-details/search-sources.html

[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 18 points 5 months ago

I'm one of those guys. Searx itself is just a meta search engine, using Google and many other search engines. You don't need to dive into any rabbit hole, just use a pre existing server for easy access. From time to time I switch the instance. You can then still decide if you want go the full rabbit hole and host it yourself, but that is not a requirement. At least its fully open source and your data/search queries are not sent to Google or Microsoft. In the settings can be specified which engines you want to use:

Try it out here: https://searx.space/ and for some information about SearxNG: https://docs.searxng.org/

[-] jherazob@beehaw.org 6 points 5 months ago

Wait, it supports bangs? That's the #1 thing that keeps me specifically with DDG, once i have some time i'll have to explore this (probably not earlier than a couple weeks though)

[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I was used to the bangs in DuckDuckGo too, but stopped using them. In example I have duckduckgo search engine disabled here, but can still do a ddg only search with !ddg hello . But don't get your hopes too high, because I think it only supports the few bangs and nothing else. It does not support ddg bangs. I registered a DuckDuckGo bang !retro to point to RetroPie forum, but it does not work in Searx.

Edit: It would have been a true banger if we could combine them in Searx like this: !ddg!retro

[-] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That combination works in Brave to search the forum (prefixing !ddg or !d) I’m surprised it doesn’t in Searx.

[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 2 points 5 months ago

I've just tested this in Brave and it works. And it does not require the combination, !retro on its own is enough. Nice!

[-] mitrosus@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago

Alternative you may consider is the brave search. Supports many bangs (?all of what ddg supports). It is independent of other search engines as well. But its picture search is poor.

[-] baggins@beehaw.org 6 points 5 months ago
[-] filcuk@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago

I've switched to this from DuckDuckGo right during the downtime and, so far, it's been working out great.

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 11 points 5 months ago

Doesn't searx just aggregate google and bing for you?

[-] mbirth@lemmy.mbirth.uk 17 points 5 months ago
[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 2 points 5 months ago

You can turn off Google if you want and use whatever engines you like.

[-] abies_exarchia@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago

Literally did this this morning and now searx is the default search engine on all my devices. Works great so far

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