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[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago

You are ending the life of a sentient being that feels pain and has feelings/emotions, that has family of one kind or another, for no benefit other than your own pleasure.

there are reasons to eat meat besides"pleasure". like nutrients or convenience or cost, and it's unlikely that most meat eaters are killing anything.

[-] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

nutrients

In the abundance of products in the 21st century you can absolutely get all the nutrients you need in excess without touching animal products, let alone meat.

convenience

Not sure how cooking pea protein sausage is less convenient than cooking a pork sausage. There are tons of vegan/vegetarian convenience products in the fridge aisle. Even if there was indeed some very minor convenience to cooking meat (which I am really in the dark about), are you really arguing your minimally bigger convenience is a good enough reason to kill a living being?

cost

In some way I agree with you here, meat is heavily subsidized while vegetables aren't (at least where I live) and it is a shame. Chicken wings can be cheaper per kg than some kind of vegetables. That's a systemic problem and needs to be taken care of not by the consumer, but government regulations. But a) you know it is bad quality meat that is on the cheaper side, b) most people aren't in a position where you have such financial pressure (food stamps etc) where you have to weigh calories per cent, c) vegan/vegetarian diets can still be cheap af as long as you don't try to do instagrammable kale quinoa brokkoli sprouts smoothies with avocado and chia seed granola or some crap like that. Potato wedges with sour cream are a vegetarian dish. Beans with rice. Noodles and tomato sauce. It doesn't have to get expensive or complicated.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

b) most people aren’t in a position where you have such financial pressure (food stamps etc) where you have to weigh calories per cent

i am barely middle class, but i still shop on calories per penny.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

i never suggested you couldn't get nutrients other places. but meat is one option for nutrients.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

Not sure how cooking pea protein sausage is less convenient than cooking a pork sausage.

if you're cooking it's probably roughly the same. but if you're out and about, whether at a drive through or a neighborhood cookout, the meat might just be more convenient.

[-] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

That's one not on you though. There are what I think is called food deserts where there just aren't a lot of vegetarian options around. But I think that's changing. Even McDonald's has a decent vegan/vegetarian menu by now.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

so to be clear, sometimes meat is a better choice based on convenience.

[-] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

Let's say yes. I mean I think it would be healthier and just as convenient to just get an apple and a bun than a burger to be honest. The question is how much of a pro argument this is. It's about as good as "wearing fur looks pretty so we should keep killing tigers for it".

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

at no point have i proposed that the production is desirable, only the consumption.

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