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WTF Joe
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this post was submitted on 04 Jun 2024
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Ahh yes, the right-wing memes.
*Ah yes, the right wing immigration policy
FTFY
Whats right wing about this? Because Joe Biden made a stupid decision that is actually right wing?
For one thing, Biden isn't talking about deporting everyone, so the post is just a lie.
Biden has no ability to change it, republicans in Congress made that clear.
If.he continued to allow folks in, the conditions would be unacceptable. They are obviously bad where they are coming from, but it would be conditions caused by the government. To avoid that, with the limited powers he has, he has to remove the custody concern.
Before you.interject that custody/processing is dumb: I agree, but it's the current law, which, Biden cannot change.
I cant tell if the president can amount dictatorial powers or are completely powerless.
I think Biden could do a lot more and tell the Supreme Court to shove it. FDR did this.
They supreme court is not the key here, dude are you from the us? You should go look these basics up.
The executive branch conducts much of the immigration policy, but Congress sets law.
Really, you don't think the Supreme Court would be the body that rules the President's actions are unconstitutional.
How on one hand can we act like the current right-wing Supreme Court as as awful as it is, And then not also acknowledge that most of their evil only matters because of their immense power over all other institutions.
The president can absolutely ram through whatever he wants and tell the Supreme Court to shove it. Heck, we see that all the time with states that just completely ignore electoral maps that are deemed unconstitutional in terms of gerrymandering.
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I don't want anyone ramming anything.
I want increasingly progressive consensus, reasonable, lawful actions making continual but incremental progress.
Edit this is pro authoritarian posting weather you acknowledge it or not.
I'm frankly sick and tired of bad things being able to happen on a dime, but good things taking decades and decades.
You all are advocating for the same exact thing right now when it comes to our electoral politics. The simple solution right now to you all is to never lose another election again. That is simply untenable. We are seeing in real time that progress that is built slowly can be taken down in an instant. I think we need to fight fire with fire instead of polite comments.
I don't actually think there is a civil solution to get out of the political mess we're in right now. We aren't just disagreeing on things and spirited debate. We are diametrically opposed in our core values. How do we just keep politely disagreeing while they take everything from us? Like, it's absurd to me that the stakes, if they win, is the end of our democracy, yet we are not treating it with that level of severity. If we truly did, we would stop at nothing to protect our democracy. I think Democrats are allowing democracy to be on the ballot right now, and that is unacceptable.
If democracy is on the ballot, then democracy is already dead.
How convenient for those who desire democracy's death.
Just another strongman worshiper.
Maga jan6 posting
You do not address my concerns. How are we supposed to beat people which arent playing by the rules?
Because no one reads the actual policies and just make up a bunch of shit because memes are more fun than the boring reality.
If you disagree, explain your understanding of the recent border policies. Quotes from it would be appropriate.