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submitted 5 months ago by flango@lemmy.eco.br to c/news@lemmy.world

When H5N1 avian influenza started spreading among dairy cattle across the U.S. this year, regulators warned against consuming unpasteurized milk. What happened? Raw milk sales went up.

Distributors of this unsafe-for-human-consumption product deny H5N1—which has the potential to sicken millions of people—is a danger. Dairy farmers decline to allow disease detectives onto their properties.

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[-] spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

and many don’t trust government.

For good reason. Really hard to trust politicians when they're all bought out by corporations (especially Pharma and health insurance) and billionaires.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

Governments and pharmas don't intentionally create new diseases to make money.

[-] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Governments and pharmas don’t intentionally create new diseases

No, but that doesn't stop them profiteering off them when they happen, at the expense of public health

(E: though lets not act as if H5N1 isn't spreading entirely due to corporate greed and the lack of regulations and enforcement it buys from the government)

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

The same people who refuse to get vaccinated are the ones that let them do it.

[-] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

You've got it the wrong way around - those making all the money also control the education system and the media and bot farms and very deliberately create an ignorant population and sow mis and dis information to encourage movements like anti-vaxxers. You shifting blame to the people being manipulated absolves the manipulators of their responsibility.

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

I get the same content and went to the same schools they do. Are they victims? Sure, but what else can we do about it when they don't listen? Not to Godwin but you can say the same thing about nazis and other groups like them

[-] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Imagine being so privileged and out of touch that you think going to the same school makes your experience there identical to everyone else's, as if it is the only influence (it isn't, that's why I listed others which you have conveniently ignored) or that they outright teach fascism and you were spared, instead of what they really do which is teach white-washed history and civics, and discourage critical thinking, which has clearly worked perfectly well on you too. Never mind acting as if socioeconomics, religion, ability, race, gender, and so on, and the biases against them that exist in the educational system (and society at large), or the pipelines that rely on those biases and designed (by those in power who need the support) to pick up on those who are most susceptible to it and send them directly in to white supremacy, don't exist and aren't fundamental to shaping a person's experience, understanding of the world and even ability to understand the world (despite there being ample evidence of all of this happening, you just have to be willing to look, and no, I'm not wasting my time doing your research for you because I don't think you really want to know).

Guess what? Your experience isn't universal and being less susceptible to one kind of propaganda doesn't mean you aren't susceptible to others, or more aware than they are that you too have been manipulated - you're literally doing the manipulators dirty work for them by blaming their victims instead of them. and the systems they maintain to manipulate and oppress the rest of society for their own gain (I wonder where you learned to do that.. 🤔).

As for your ending this discussion - if you actually knew anything about the Nazis, you'd know just how crucial a part propaganda and manipulation played in making them popular enough to gain power. Acting as if Nazis and other bigots are "just born that way" and that you're simply better than them, is almost as dangerous as they are, and will never lead to any change (which is fine by you, because just like them, you'd rather have someone to punch down at, than aim your anger at those actually responsible and punch up).

TL;DR: this is you

(E: actually, it isn't quite you, since as we established, you clearly have been influenced by propaganda, just like every other person on the planet because you're not special, and you certainly do lack those critical thinking skills)

Edit again because I know some people are dedicated to misunderstand things that make them uncomfortable - none of this is a defence of bigots, you're just never going to address, never mind end bigotry if you insist on ignoring its source, like anyone who blames individuals for systemic issues is doing.

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You don't know me, i grew up in a red as fuck town that grew to love trump I literally had the same experience they did. So maybe instead of giving me some shit about privilege you can stop and think for a moment about about how much you know about me off some internet post.

Shit I grew up with a lot of of native Americans in schools that taught their history with streets named after russian colonizers. And a lot of them still become trump supporters.

I never said they were born that way by the way. But don't let that stop you from making a multiparagraph post to passively tell me about my life.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee -2 points 5 months ago

Regardless of intention, the US government put its stamp of approval on a lot of misinformation during the pandemic. Whether that was an attempt to deceive or just incompetence, it doesn’t inspire trust at all.

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