There is clearly a problem that most of the politics and news communities on Lemmy are unpleasant places to take part in discussion. People yell at each other. The tone of disagreements is that of saying what your opinion is, and insulting the other person if they don't agree with your opinion, or a bunch of people giving quick one-off statements like "well I think it's this way" or "no you're wrong" which adds nothing. I've heard more than one person say that they simply don't participate in politics or news communities because of it.
Well, behold:
I have made some technology which attempts to take a much heavier handed approach to moderation, by just detecting assholes or people who aren't really contributing to the conversation, in other communities, and just banning them pre emptively en masse. In its current form, it bans about half of hexbear and lemmygrad, and almost all of the users on lemmy.world who post a nonstop stream of obnoxiously partisan content. You know the ones.
In practice it's basically a whitelist for posting that's easy to get on: Just don't be a dick.
I'd like to try the experiment of having a ~~political~~ community with this software running the banlist, and see how it works in practice, and maybe expand it to a news community that runs the same way. There's nothing partisan about the filtering. You can have whatever opinion you want. You just can't be unproductive or an asshole about the way you say your opinion. And the bans aren't permanent, they are transient based on the user's recent past behavior.
(Edit: I think making a general news community might fit better with slrpnk than politics. In thinking about it and talking with people, I think electoral politics just doesn't belong in the slrpnk feed, but maybe general news specifically with the political bickering that comes along with it being muted, would be a positive for the instance at the same time as I get to test out my little software project.)
I don't want to explain in too much detail how the tech works, because I think some segment of assholes will want to evade the tech to come into the community and be assholes again. But I'd also want to set up a meta community where anyone who did get banned can ask questions or make complaints about it. (As long as that offering doesn't turn into too much of a shit show that is.)
Is slrpnk a place where a little experiment like this could find a good home? What does everyone think of the idea?
Thanks. Let's see what happens.
I don't anticipate it being a "working against" thing for an overwhelming majority of people. Most people's experience should be simply that they get to talk about politics without a bunch of disruptive comments all over the place.
You're right that anything I can do to show transparency will help create that, because it would be easy to interpret the place as a "working against" thing where everyone has to be obedient to my way or else I'll ban them, even if everything with the bot works perfectly and there's no reality to that at all. More likely, everything won't work perfectly, and there will be some small number of people who legitimately wind up tangling with the bot even if they are fine.
I do anticipate there will be a certain population that will get very upset that they're not allowed to come in and make whatever type of hostile or disruptive comments they want, and make a big stink about how it's grossly unfair that I am running the community like my own little echo chamber and kicking out any unpopular opinion, even though 99% of the time nothing like that is happening. I plan to ignore those people.
Yea you'll be fine man don't sweat it. I hope it works out where everyone including yourself is happy with the result.
Don't ever spend a second 'worrying' about lemmy hissy fit throwers. You couldn't pay me to spend my time trying to please all of them because then that would mean I'm in fucking hell 🤣
You can never please an army of entitled, self important, politically obsessed, and passive aggressive internet people no matter what you do. Someone is not gunna be happy for whatever reason, but you're not responsible for their feelings.
Down votes don't mean shit 🤣 other then you're right and they're fucking mad about it and need to be able to press a button because you're not kissing their ass and catering to them. Children throw fits that's what that is.
Anyway I'm done preaching lol touch base with me if or when you get this going. I'm not gunna participate but I would like to see how it unfolds