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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I didn't realize "Your poll is older!" is a response to "Your poll literally doesn't say what you claim it does".

Even disregarding that, it’s interesting that you’re trying to paint a one percent difference between the favors and opposes as “majority of Americans”,

Funny, if you go back through our comments, the only person claiming that a majority of Americans would be voting for or against something is... you.

Huh. Weird. Almost like projection is one of the few tools you have.

But sure, 36% is a majority. Great math you have there. Like the math the Italian fascists used to 'make the trains run on time'.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/americans-split-continuing-military-aid-israel

PugJesus fighting hard to try to claim most people love genocide like he does.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/americans-split-continuing-military-aid-israel

"Your poll is from February!" he says, as he posts a poll from February. "Your poll is within the margin of error, just 1%!" he says, as posts a poll within the margin of error, literally just 1%. But hey, opting for no "Unsure" or "Neither" option really makes your 'majority support' of 48% 'more likely to vote for' (and notably not an actual policy position) that much more convincing.

lmao

Fascist hypocrisy is so predictable. More than their trains, that's for sure.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

The poll I posted is later in february, showing the trend away from supporting israel's campaign of genocide, so good job missing the point. Tell me more about how I'm supposedly the fascist even though you're trying so hard to elevate support for genocide. Tell us all why we must support genocide because republicans overwhelmingly favor it.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago

The poll I posted is later in february,

By four days.

Jesus, you really will grasp at anything, won't you?

[-] hark@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Says the one who first posted a poll from february so that you could claim that most Americans love genocide as much as you do. The reality is that:

  • Support for israel's campaign of genocide has fallen as more people see it for what it is.
  • The majority of supporters of genocide are republicans.

So tell me, what's your point? Because it looks like you're just trying your damnedest to elevate support for genocide. Not a good look.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago

Says the one who first posted a poll from february

What.

Your criticism was that the poll was 'too early', and you posted a poll from... four days later in response.

You aren't even trying, are you?

[-] hark@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

The first poll I posted is from march and showed a big difference with most people not approving of israel's campaign of genocide. You went and posted a poll from february with a 1% more in favor of israel in the total category. I posted a slightly later poll than yours showing a 1% difference with more not in favor of israel to show the trend. Hopefully this is laid out simply enough for you to understand, but it seems like you're trying your hardest to twist yourself into a pretzel so that you can elevate support for genocide.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago

The first poll I posted is from march

Literally you:

The poll I posted is later in february,

Your source:

https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/reuters%20ipsos%20foreign%20affairs%20graphic%201%20jpeg%203.1.24.jpg

"February 26-28"

Are you allergic to the truth or something?

[-] hark@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

The FIRST poll I posted was this one: https://news.gallup.com/poll/642695/majority-disapprove-israeli-action-gaza.aspx

I wrote FIRST to differentiate for a reason. Are you allergic to reading or something?

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago

That poll, as already mentioned, does not address the issue you were talking about. You... you DO get how that's worse, right...?

[-] hark@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

"Majority in U.S. Now Disapprove of Israeli Action in Gaza"

Israeli action in Gaza is genocide.

Therefore majority in the US disapprove of genocide.

Seems pretty straightforward, right? But to PugJesus over here, this somehow doesn't mean that and instead means that a majority of Americans support genocide. How? Hard to tell, but PugJesus over here is fighting really hard to claim that most people love genocide for some reason.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Therefore majority in the US disapprove of genocide.

In the same way that Joe Biden disapproves of genocide, ie by shaking their finger but explicitly continuing to support aid for the genocide, you know, what you initially claimed they would vote against. Sorry that you think Joe Biden's position is anti-genocide, but I'm afraid I just can't agree with that. :)

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