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I just got my first bill since going to a community choice power provider. Here in California, the investor owned utilities (commercial companies, not the publicly-owned utilities) act as retailers of energy. They buy power on the open market from generators, then sell it to their customers. They bill both for the cost to generate the power, and also for power delivery (which includes maintaining the grid). An option that recently became available is for a city government to join a community choice power provider, which then buys power from generators on our behalf. The utility still delivers it, so it’s not real competition, but partway there. The community choice provider then bills the utility, who passes that bill along to individual customers.

So, the generation cost went down by about 30% for power used during the day, and a few percent for power delivered at night (three different time-of-use categories). Our community choice provider has an option for 100% renewable power, which I chose, so this is a pretty tangible demonstration that renewable power really is cheaper than fossil fuels.

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[-] marine_mustang@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

Yeah, I was afraid that they were meeting their 100% renewable claim through credits, I’m going to have to look into that. I do have solar, but not enough for 100% self-generation, even if I had a battery system.

[-] spidermanchild@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Ultimately we must do the best with what's available to us, just like you're doing. Electrify everything, get the most efficient stuff you can, and vote and trust your regulators are decarbonizing the grid. I'm in CO and although I am on track to overproduce on an annual basis with my 8 kW system, I'm not even close to matching my usage daily and especially not seasonally (good luck in January when my heat pump is cranking and I have a foot of snow on the panels). I'm able to retire my own RECS for my production so at least Xcel doesn't get to use my solar to meet their targets, but I'm clearly very heavily dependent on their grid.

We're maybe a decade behind CA in solar adoption and although I'm aggressively compensated by our current rate structure, that will surely change when the duck grows a belly here and solar is worth jack shit at high noon. It's a fascinating industry.

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