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Is anyone else highly concerned with the SCOTUS ruling that the POTUS is immune from criminal liability? (lemmy.autism.place)

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Sorry if this is not the proper community for this question. Please let me know if I should post this question elsewhere.

So like, I'm not trying to be hyperbolic or jump on some conspiracy theory crap, but this seems like very troubling news to me. My entire life, I've been under the impression that no one is technically/officially above the law in the US, especially the president. I thought that was a hard consensus among Americans regardless of party. Now, SCOTUS just made the POTUS immune to criminal liability.

The president can personally violate any law without legal consequences. They also already have the ability to pardon anyone else for federal violations. The POTUS can literally threaten anyone now. They can assassinate anyone. They can order anyone to assassinate anyone, then pardon them. It may even grant complete immunity from state laws because if anyone tries to hold the POTUS accountable, then they can be assassinated too. This is some Putin-level dictator stuff.

I feel like this is unbelievable and acknowledge that I may be wayyy off. Am I misunderstanding something?? Do I need to calm down?

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[-] Boozilla@lemmy.world 36 points 4 months ago

We're completely fucked. The cult of 45 has a superpower few people understand: bottomless stupidity. It's more frightening than it sounds. They will destroy themselves for their orange god, and take the rest of us with them. They have nothing to lose, and their only desire is for their dictator to "make the libruls cry".

And as usual, the leaders of the Democrats are bringing educational pamphlets to a gun fight.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 points 4 months ago

And they're not even good pamphlets! They're trite bullshit!

[-] Kachajal@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

It's not stupidity, it's loyalty to the level of irrationality.

You'll understand the current American right if you assume that they have no attachment to the meaning of their words, and the prime axiom they operate by is: "My team is always right".

They use words as weapons to convince those who can be swayed by them, but they themselves are immune to being swayed by words, and largely indifferent to their literal meaning - only their emotional content.

This is not to deify the left, they have their own problems.

[-] Boozilla@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

The working class folks on the right have a lot more in common with the working class folks on the left than they realize or will admit to themselves. They see "liberals" as both the enemy and the source of all their problems. Trump and the Republicans could dismantle Social Security and Medicare and every social program that exists, causing tremendous harm to working class people on both sides...and Trump's cult followers would still blame the left for it. They consistently vote against their own interests and fail to acknowledge facts or truth. If that's not stupidity, I don't know what stupidity means.

[-] beetlejuice0001@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

When he went to Miami to be indicted he was disappointed because not a single person showed up. Hard to square with all these supposed super fans. Grateful Dead or Phish had more loyal fans.

[-] Boozilla@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I appreciate the counterpoint and hope it means something. The polls show Biden trailing Trump by an uncomfortable margin. Not that I put much faith in polls anymore.

[-] beetlejuice0001@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The polls, they are the issue atm. Truly It’ll all come down to the election.

I believe that most of it is a bluff. There will be minimal actual Trump supporters taking up arms. We saw that at the 1/6 joke. There will be some violence but it will be stamped out. These people had children die in Afghanistan fighting religious fundamentalist. It’ll look like most of their protests where only 4-6 people actually show up. We are a nation of over 300 million.

Humans, Americans especially, have become too domesticated for unnecessary slaughter. 99% of the population have never even killed their food.

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