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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Did you miss the story about them tying a wounded Palestinian to the front of a vehicle? There's this Reuters story too.

Oh and here's Haaretz.

There is a pattern of behavior here and it's not the Palestinians lying.

[-] ynthrepic@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

The car hood event is a sample of one. You can't prove a pattern of behavior of a military using human shields with that. That's not how patterns work.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

How many examples of using a human shield would you like?

I'm guessing it's whatever there's evidence for, and then one more. After all you're down to nitpicking the subcategories of human shields.

[-] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

More than one, for a start. The accusation is that there's a pattern. One does not a pattern make.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Good because there's two right there.

[-] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That's a start then. I hope you're wrong.

I think we're still a long way from reasonably comparing Hamas's use of human shields and Martyrs among their own people, to this.

I do think there are likely a very significant number of IDF soldiers who are monsters who treat Palestinians as subhuman out of pure prejudice and maybe psychopathy. Because of course there are in any military, and very likely moreso in this one. But there is insufficient evidence this applies systemically more than to a very small minority, and more in the IDF than wider Israeli society of course. But they're still not motivated by anything specific in the culture except a long history of conflict. There is no intrinsic reason for even psychopathic Jews to be prejudiced toward Palestinians on the basis of Judaism. Not so the other way around, when there is well established hatred of Jews in Islam.

This matters, and I remain sure history will remember this following what's to come (especially if Trump wins the election).

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Not really, stuff like this doesn't keep coming up because it's a one time thing. This is multiple units, in multiple locations, at multiple times.

[-] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

It's two instances over a war that's already been in progress for 8 months.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

It really isn't. There's more video out there, just not as well corroborated.

[-] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Sure, but that makes all the difference. You and I can believe what we want, but put us in positions of power and influence, and it matters what is corroborated before we make sweeping decisions with huge ramifications for future well being. I try to aspire to that threshold of responsibility. Otherwise, what's the good in commenting or posting?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

The only legal bar the US needs to clear is "Credible Evidence". Well...

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