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[-] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 4 months ago

Please take pride in where you live, and I will take pride in where I live, and we can show off our homes to each other.

They are not taking pride in their local environment or even their fellow citizens. Pride in America is pride for the system that bears that name, the system of oppression, genocide, war, and death so that its masters can live in luxury. And that system is fucking disgusting.

Giving an extra fuck about the place where you live helps combat things going to shit through the tragedy of the commons.

In fact, pride for America requires putting America's system first before the environment and its citizens it claims to represent. It is antithetical to "giving an extra fuck about" anything other than the evil machine that America represents.

[-] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Yes, that's what I mean by toxic people turning it bad.

[-] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 4 months ago

But it was never ever good to begin with. America has always been the label of a colonial project.

[-] FireTower@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Weighing only the bad you'll find no where on Earth is good.

[-] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 4 months ago

Historically it should be obvious that "America" is much more evil than good for the vast majority of people who have come in contact with it. This is no less true in modern times.

no where on Earth is good.

If by "no where on Earth is good" you mean "no country on Earth is good" then literally yes, that's like my thesis as a human lol. If the only thing you take away from my entire existence is "all states are bad" then I can die happy.

[-] FireTower@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Fair enough, I personally try to be more optimistic and focus on the positives while acknowledging the problems. But as long as you aren't deluded into thinking one nation holds a monopoly on negative aspects I can respect that.

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