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He wants the cabling to be put underground, instead of using pylons. You can disagree with him (I do) but it's pretty disingenuous to say he 'opposes green development' just because he doesn't immediately rubber stamp every policy labelled green.
Putting it underground is worse for the environment in and of itself, because of the direct damage to soil and plantlife (and so indirect damage to animal life). It's also more expensive, which leaves you with less money to spend (on, e.g., just picking an example at random, green development). And it takes longer, which means relying on fossil fuels for longer.
So, his proposed solution is worse for the environment in three different ways. If his solution is less green than the thing he's opposing, then it's fair to say he opposes green development.
It's not great, but both methods have their pros and cons, even for the environment. But you are very clearly pushing some bullshit anti Greens agenda here, which is even worse for green development.
There's no bullshit involved. I have an anti-Green agenda because I have a pro-green agenda. Both in and out of power, the Greens oppose actual green development in favour of nimbyism. They have shown this in this case by immediately using their much-vaunted quadrupling in representation to oppose a project which would help meet the goal of decarbonising the grid by 2030. This is very much part of a pattern.
Whatever my limited influence on green development, I can guarantee it's of smaller impact than Ramsay's nimbyism.
Citing CapX isn't making a great point for your case.
If you had a case at all, you'd attack the facts, not the source.
If you have to use a conservative corpo source then I have barely any other choice than that. But you continue your capitalistic propaganda shit.
It doesn't matter who says 'This Green politician opposes solar farms' because this Green politician does oppose solar farms. Ranting about capitalist propaganda does not change the facts
It does, especially when you project your claim onto the entire party.
No amount of ranting can change the facts.
I am not projecting. As I said, it's part of a pattern of behaviour, as demonstrated by the Greens co-leader's opposition to pylons and by their official opposition to HS2. Here are some more examples, although to be honest, I'm not sure how many more you need to accept that the Greens consistently do this: siding with nimbys over the environment is a deliberate electoral strategy for them.
This - saw a documentary a few years ago where they were discussing this very issue. Far more expensive and a huge swathe of land needs to be cleared and then prepared. Cable carrying that sort of power cannot just be put in the ground like a cable TV feed. Proper ducting and insulation need to be installed and the cables will be further apart than if on pylons. Being up in the air helps with cooling etc. Also maintenance/repairs are easier than having to dig up whole section of land. It's a case of the lesser of 2 evils.
In Portugal, storks actually nest in the pylons, so they're actually good for biodiversity!