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[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

This is one specific event with one specific scope. Both candidates performed poorly at that event. Only one of them has been in headline after headline. Yes, we all know Trump lies, but not covering his debate lies at least as much as covering Biden's poor showing at the debate. Lies I remind you. One candidate participated in earnest if poorly. The other lied roughly once per speaking minute. As a candidate for President. That should be nonstop news, at least as much so as "Oh yeah, turns out Biden is old, too!"

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

All due respect but I think this frames the debate in the wrong context:

  • Trump performed as expected, and remains the same if not better in the polls.
  • Biden performed FAR worse than expected, and not only had a poor debate performance, he confirmed to 50 million people what was already shown to be on their minds, an immutable vice called not just age but senility.

This notion that, "If we just cover One More Scandal, we'll get him this time!" to me is the definition of insanity.

So the real question we must all ask ourselves is this: How do you convince the low-info apathetic battleground swing-state voters who hate both candidates and will decide this election? So far, Biden has only lost them as his Presidency has gone on, and to me, that debate sealed the deal.

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

This notion that, “If we just cover One More Scandal, we’ll get him this time!” to me is the definition of insanity.

It's not about "this time we'll get him" it's about objective reporting. Trump was expected to lie is NOT a reason to not shout from the rooftops that he's lying.

How do you convince the low-info apathetic battleground swing-state voters who hate both candidates and will decide this election?

Nothing but lots of hope. Facts and logic sure ain't doing it.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

But let's be clear: they both are being covered simultaneously. The difference is (1) Media knows where people are at, and it being covered won't even change much, as I already pointed out while (2) the only thing that CAN change is for the other guy who we expect to hold the moral high road and recognize the right course of action to change.

I think it's far, far less likely that an undecided low-info swing voter goes, "Wow, I saw Trump lie again. That's one lie too far. I'm going Biden." than it is, "Wow, a fresh face of the Democratic party who isn't ancient; sure let's try something different."

Nothing but lots of hope. Facts and logic sure ain’t doing it.

Well, I appreciate your candor.

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

Well, I appreciate your candor.

🙂

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