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Has anyone checked on ozma?
Ah dang, it was just focused on Twitter. Nevermind.
The campaign to keep Biden as candidate when its clear he is going to lose is the pysop.
Fostering party disunity on the left helps their boy Trump far more.
You've lost your god-damned mind.
Biden's polling is in the low 30s. He's lost this election. If he's the candidate or you support him as candidate, you are arguing in favor of Trump.
Disunity? Biden is the source of the lack of unity. You can't just bludgeon people into supporting your clearly failed cause.
This attitude of YOURS is why we are in this mess.
The race is still damned close.
Biden was a fine president in my opinion, and this impulse to throw our best chance with a proven track record under the bus because of one bad debate boggles the mind. Such a position only serves to help Trump.
Every personal criticism against Biden is also applicable to Trump only in a far worse and more dangerous way.
Wake up.
It wasn't even that bad. He felt old, yes, but his responses were fine. They weren't all great, but it was better than Trump spouting outright lies left and right that fed a dangerous narrative. I wouldn't vote for Biden in a primary, but it seems too late to replace him now. There are legal entanglements and monies that can't be transferred. Kamala is just not that strong a candidate for beating Trump. I don't know who is at this point. It's a terrible position to be in, but it seems like a Biden vs Trump race or a surefire loss to Trump.
Let's not sugar coat it. I'm a fan of Bidens first term. I'm happy enough to vote for him, or whoever the Dems put up because I know the stakes.
But debate was terrible. His gaffs in his follow up appearances have been terrible as well. He's displaying severe signs of aging, and that's awful for his campaign.
If you strained to listen, you could make out what Biden was attempting to say, and for the most part, it was moderate, typical stuff. Nothing radical, just the same ole stuff. But you had to strain, and fill in the blanks when he said the wrong thing, but you knew what he meant.
Trump on the other hand, was mostly intelligible. He communicated abnormally well for him. He said awful, disgusting things that were either outright lies and/or evil shit. But he said it confidently and more or less clearly.
Most Americans don't seem to listen to substance, fact check, and make informed decisions. Or else Trump never would have been elected in the first place.
I think Biden is still our best chance since I think running a primary this late would be disastrous. But let's not fool ourselves. Biden is tanking his campaign big time.
His brain is soup.
His administration can still get shit done though, so fuck it, puppet him on strings like they did with feinstein.
I hate that this is seen as an acceptable position.